Why I´m asked to recover if I´m fully recovered?

The training status widget tells me that I am fully recovered:

...while the training adviser asks me to recover:

Does that make sense to anyone? Thanks!

  • IT is a little confusing terminology, it really is "low impact". Even if you've recovered from your previous exercise, factoring in these recovery runs really helps.

    I was pretty dubious till i put myself through #followgarminfebruary where I spent the whole four weeks doing only the recommended workouts. Those recovery runs almost always resulted in a vo2 max increase in my next workout. What it's basically doing is getting you to mix low and higher impact workouts, ones that either are aerobic or anaerobic.

  • Thanks, you said it better than I tried to explain it.

  • If I am "fully recovered" as the watch states, why would I need a recovery ride, instead of e.g. goinf full in that day?

    Because your fitness will increase more over time if you mix high intensity with low intensity, mix type of activities and duration. The training advisor is there to help you improve fitness as fast as possible without the risk of overtraining. If the advice would be either "Rest" or "All In" it would be useless and you could use the recovery advisor instead.

    If you balance your daily training you will over time see that the recovery needs to full recovery becomes less than 24h. 

    Spend some minutes on this article and follow the links. When done there are more on the same topic, just google ;-)
    https://fellrnr.com/wiki/Training_Monotony

  • I should have added that there are plenty of days where I am also according to garmin not fully recovered with all the opportunuty for low intensity work (which it then usually also subsribes me). I am aware that optimal training doesn´t consist of only high intensisy. Thats really no my point.

    My point is: why it choses one of the few days where I am fully recovered to prescribe my more recovery.

  • That is part of what i tried to explain/ask in my first answer (but probably failed).
    Can it be that you saw the name "recovery" in the suggested training?
    What if it had a different name, but still same suggested workout. Would you in that case still think it is a bad suggestion based on the fact that you have already recovered or would you just think "hey, this is too slow for me today, i will do a more intense workout instead" and just ignore it and run your own plan/pace.

    It could just be an algoritm that looks at everything such as sleep, stress, body battery and previous workouts and it just thinks that today would be a good day to perform an easier training.

    I am mostly guessing here.

  • Here is the story of a runner who tried following the advice from the watch for a month, very much against her usual training approach. TLDR - she liked the results even if she didn't understand the value/purpose of the advice at the time. 

    https://youtu.be/Lh2nz5G_tF0

  • Yep I did the same for a month. I found some useful things from it I still use in my normal running.

  • As others have said, it appears you are getting too hung up on the ‘recovery’ part. 

    Whats your training load look like?

    How’s your ‘low aerobic’ balance compared to everything else?

     
    If you do/did that recovery run/ride and stayed within the set parameters you have ended up with a training effect that was ‘Base’ and low aerobic.

    If the suggestion had been called ‘Base’ (there is actually a ‘base’ suggestion and it’s typically longer than ‘recovery’ but similar in intensity. For me at least) or ‘Low Aerobic’ would you have still questioned it?

    I don’t know how it/Garmin bases it’s suggestions but I’d imagine it takes a lot more into account than just recovery hours from last session so I see absolutely no reason for you/me/anyone to not receive suggestions that on the surface may feel or seem counter to what we may choose to do. 

    Don’t over think it. It is after all a suggestion. Do it if it sounds good or do what you planned/want instead. 

  • What's about your training status, training load focus and 7 days load? 

    Whithout these data every consideration makes no sense. 

    Do you know what macrocycles, mesocycles and microcycles means in training periodization? 

  • My training load is (too) low and with to much base work compared to intensity. Btw, yesterday I could barely move due to muscle soreness with 0 motivation to go on the bike, so totally ready for "recovery" or even more "rest". Garmin proposed me doing "intervals".

    So whatever they take into account to create that suggestions, the result seems somewhere between random and the exact opposite of whats useful.