Do we get the new SW updates from 945?

Odie21 said:

This type of thinking though, is quite frankly Garmin’s fault as it’s self inflicted. They should just release watches “as is” with no betas, no software updates (unless it’s a critical fix), etc. People just EXPECT things now, which directly contribute to this type of behavior.

Considering the amount of bugs when a new watch is released, if they didn't have a beta testers like us, their watches would remain full of bugs for the rest of their lives. So, they should be grateful to any of us that help them to solve software bugs without been paid!

Rainmaker also said in the past that "Body Battery" was coming to the Fenix 5 and Fenix 5+. We're still waiting for that one.

You're just being ignorant on purpose. Your thinking is very anti consumer and frankly dangerous. No one in this thread said that they were entitled to something, however when you buy a top end device it is expected that it will be supported, get with the times, companies cut down their qaqc teams because consumers are now doing that for them, call it beta testing or whatever it's free for companies. 

Now yes if a device is capable of new software features which are introduced in the lower cost model they need to be ported to the higher end model and that's it, unless you want to drive consumers away. Hardware is a different story and obviously you can't port that which is okay, but locking down software for no apparent reason is not consumer friendly and if f5x+ doesn't get them I will be looking at non Garmin devices when the time for the upgrade comes. I understand that this thread won't resolve anything but if they actually think the way you think, which I don't think so because they're actually in business, they'll just hurt their bottom line.

Well, it’s abundantly obvious that you didn’t read this entire thread and you just cherry picked the posts to read, or you have a reading comprehension problem. I’m in no way “anti consumer”. Do I wish that new features were added? Of course I do, who wouldn’t? BUT, I bought the watch for what’s on it, not what they will do in the future. If you really would have read what I wrote from the beginning of my presence here,  in this thread, then you’d understand that. 

Your illogical statement of “No one in this thread said that they were entitled to something” is clearly a sign that you didn’t read/understand what you read or you agree with the entitled people here because yes, there are posts all over this tread of people posting that they SHOULD get new features because of either what “they paid a lot of money, the customer is always right or because I support Garmin I should get this”

I will post a guarantee...when the Fenix 6 comes out at CES ‘20, there won’t be a single person in this thread posting that they won’t buy another Garmin product because they aren’t getting a new feature from a watch that is nearly a year newer, that 6 months after the F6 comes out, that they’ll be posting pictures of them wearing it. Most of the people here are full of hot air and fluff. They’ll whine and complain about not getting a new feature or two, but they’ll do exactly what Garmin wants and will buy the new watch. That’s how a business runs.

You want new features? That’s fine, as I understand but to EXPECT it because of “insert ridiculous reason here” is what.....everyone say it with me “ENTITLED”!!!!

You're missing the point, it's not about this watch in particular, it's about what this sort of behavior represents. Yes you bought a watch for what it was, however the feature that the watch has is now updated, your watch is capable of running the feature and only thing stopping it is that someone decided not to push it to the watch, it's not the watch limitations. 

You probably have an iPhone and you do get new software updates regularly for it, these updates bring new features to years old phones, is a 6 month old watch doesn't get an update that it is more than capable of running then why would you even buy f6, it's easier to find a way to flash it's firmware to 5x+. 

Your argument makes no sense here and I'm not sure why you're even arguing, you yourself are saying that you would like new features on it, that's literally what we're all saying anyway, you just have some sort of a problem with the word entitlement that you yourself plastered all over this topic.

No one in this thread said that they were entitled to something

Earlier in this thread, I copied and posted the definition of the word "entitlement".  Perhaps you may want to read that again.

Look it's one thing to *** about something that's obviously not possible, but when you have first beat support saying it's possible and up to Garmin and apparently according to dcr the feature won't be ported to f5+, then I find it hard to use entitlement as argument for it. I would gladly pay small fee to get the feature that is supperior to to what is on the watch now because the updated training load and vo2max is very important to me. My only problem here is that the watch is capable and there is no limitation on the watch to support it, it's Garmin that is, according to this thread,  is not allowing it to happen. 

Buying a top of the line product comes with the expectation that it will be supported and updated through it's lifetime or at least couple of years, just look at your phone, my note 8 got Android PIE recently and it's a 2 years old phone. 

You should take a look over in the Suunto forums, they (Suunto) have decided to completely ignore the watches that are without bluetooth connectivity, some of which are still being sold by Suunto, in favor of the newer watches.  Along with the same procdure as Garmin, introducing newer products with "more attractive" features, and still their "flagship" watch of 2 years ago is incomplete, not doing what even the barest ambit series could/did do.  I consider myself lucky I bailed out of that fiasco a while back, and while I would appreciate the additional data sources/streams, it's not what I bought when I plunked down my cash, I would consider it gravy.  Just my 2c worth, having seen what the "other ones' are doing.

I’m not missing any point, you’re the one misconstruing my words. You used an iPhone as an example. You’re right, I do use an iPhone and one of the “selling features” of buying an iPhone was that they’ll support it with new updates for at least 4-5 years, whereas Google will support the Pixel lineup for 2-3 years. This was an important selling point for me. This is stated and advertised by these companies, this is a big selling feature. Please show me where Garmin has stated that in any of its selling material and/or advertising that they’d supply you with improvements and/or updates.....? You can’t, so stop trying to compare Apples to Oranges.

Our watches may support updates with newer features and hell if we get them, fantastic. But to “EXPECT” them, is classified as Entitlement. Now, if Garmin advertised updates and didn’t follow through with it? You bet your a$$ I’d be here with all of you beating down the doors to follow through with their promise and quite frankly I’d never buy another Garmin product. But that’s not the case with this topic.  It’s one thing to REQUEST a new feature to be added, it’s another to EXPECT it.