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Lots of unfair developers (Garmin, where are you?)

ERSHOVLAD
over 4 years ago

Hello guys!

I am terribly annoyed by the fact that a bunch of similar applications appeared in the app store, in which not a drop of heart and effort was invested. At the same time, the number of such applications and developers is growing rapidly.

For example:

https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/developer/c506e11c-06a8-48a8-9c2f-441e3dd87234/apps

https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/developer/9600e368-ac57-4091-a52f-e45b6e507af5/apps

https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/developer/180d3966-8870-4362-af71-575b78c8d6b3/apps

https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/developer/3f5c726a-cf05-4c3a-b840-c315ccbd4bb8/apps

https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/developer/d4dd2adf-d651-4414-9984-01dc83420eb4/apps

Aside from their gaudy watch faces, what do all these developers have in common? That they use the KiezelPay payment system. For this, there is a separate group in Discord, where their curator gives advice on how to sell and what to do to increase your profit.

The developers release a large number of empty updates for their applications and winds up reviews from a large number of their devices. Obviously, all of his applications do not carry any aesthetic or unique meaning, and the developers are trying to sell it for real money. I am not satisfied with the fact that his applications are constantly shown in the list of popular ones, but we understand that this is only because they have given their applications a large number of positive reviews from their accounts. Please consider blocking these developers or limiting their stay in popular applications.

Thank you for attention! And please express your opinion. It seems to me that now a global problem is being born for the entire Garmin ecosystem, which does not pay attention to such developers and does not try to improve the app's rating and ranking system.

  • over 4 years ago in reply to Bodya

    Notice: "At the same time, the number of downloads for my application was noticeably higher at first."

    Anyway no one cares about it. This topic isn't about it

  • Former Member
    Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to Bodya

    Talking about the unfair game. I remember a few months some developers that were using that kiezelday payment received a lot of negative reviews, which were later deleted by garmin and clasified as spam negative reviews. Maybe that was you? I think garmin should have a look into that as well.

  • over 4 years ago in reply to Former Member

    By the way, yes, I also remember this incident. Frankly, I was glad when it happened. Apparently, someone else has a tool for mass appraisal or they have a falling out within their team.

  • over 4 years ago in reply to Former Member

    haha no, it is not me, as my apps are free and popular and still in the store and have mostly positive real reviews

    What about yours?

  • over 4 years ago in reply to ERSHOVLAD

    yes, this topic is about how is honest developer can be!

    For example some of your app are listed with a button:

    Requirements

    Companion Hardware

    [Get the hardware]

     But actually these apps didn't require any additional hardware and this button is used just for ask money.

    Is it honest? 

  • over 4 years ago in reply to Bodya

    "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt.

    You can continue to focus your attention on my personality, but I will continue to discuss the problem in the topic.

  • over 4 years ago in reply to ERSHOVLAD

    Do not try to change direction of this topic! You are complain re unfair devs, but you should point finger on you first.

    Can you comment in specifics Companion Hardware case?

  • over 4 years ago in reply to Bodya

    If Garmin resolves the unfair rating issue (it looks like there is a lot of work going on on this) - wouldn't honest, talented developers and users benefit from it? 

  • over 4 years ago

    Well, the thing is... I do not know if Garmin have started to do somethig... but my watchface has dissapeared from every list... Why!!!???

  • over 4 years ago in reply to surfr.dsign

    When you show in trending, it can be for a short time as normally, trending can change multiple times a day.  

    Each time trending is calculated against 1000's of other apps, so it's not uncommon to only be on that list for a short time.

    "Most popular" is based on downloads for the current version, so if you're in the #1 spot and you update your app, you move to the end, but if your popular, people download the update of your app and you move up the list quickly.  This can be seen when an auto migration occurs. Using actiface as an example, it's got over 2m unique downloads, so when an update to it occurs, many thousands of people get that update in a few days.

    The other categories seem to have a bit longer history involved, where an update to  something(or an auto migration) have shuffle things a bit, but not the same impact as "most popular".  Say you with in the 8th spot, you may move to someplace in the top 16, but not to the end.

    In other words, things seem to be getting back to normal as far as trending, where things move around and change often..