2x respiration rate since Feb 18 2025

Hi, does anyone notice after the firmware update the respiration rate become 2x or almost 2x of real value? My Fenix 8, Tactix 7 are like that. Then last night I pair my old Venu 3, it gives my a proper value. This morning, I got a new Venu 3 firmware update, after the update, it becomes as bad as my Fenix 8. 

I use other devices such as the Clinic grade Masimo to check and compare my respiration rate, yes, it confirms Fenix 8 is indeed not showing proper value.

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  • The latest updates have also reduced the battery life and seem to be sending HRV on a downward trend as well.  Increased detection range is fine IF it is accurately calculating the respiration rate. It is not.

  • Hi.  I completed two meditations counting my breaths.  One was 3 minutes and the other 4 minutes.  I uploaded 4 screenshots:  one each for 3-minute Overview and Stats and one pair for 4-minutes.

    In the Overviews I added notes regarding the breaths that I counted during the sessions.  As you can see, the data is grossly different between what I observed and what my Venu 3 reported.  Using the 4 minute meditation as an example, I counted 24 breaths during the entire four minutes, giving me an average of 6 breaths per minute.

    As you can see in the Stats page for that screenshot, Garmin reported Average brpm of 17, minimum 12 and max 23.  These numbers are not even CLOSE to my observed 6 brpm.

    If you need any more data, please let me know, but consider this more data that states that the Garmin BRPM calculation algorithm is very, very inaccurate.  Please have them take another look and do their own observations.

  • Laurie

    I just completed a breathwork activity. With one breath per 16 seconds. Which is 3.75 brpm. My watch says I was at 7-8 bpm. The same activity prior to the update showed 4 brpm. I understand what engineering is telling you, but for me the values are not just more variable or different they are wrong compared to manually counting breaths. Also the old method was more accurate by far for me. 

    Does accuracy get validated prior to roll out?

  • I am also having this issue. Did a 15 minute breathing exercise with an inhale/exhale cycle being 15 seconds or 4 brpm. The garmin activity shows a minimum brpm of 8 at the very beginning and never dipped below 11 at any further point. It showed an average of 15 brpm across the entire meditation with a maximum of 20 brpm (which is practically hyperventilating). 

    Not even close to what I was getting beforehand. I echo many of the sentiments shared by several users. I’ve tried different apps, activity types (yoga, meditation, breathwork), and timeframes and it’s all messed up. I’d bet my house and everything I own that there is a problem. 

  • I got a message saying that what I shared was within what they are expecting. It seems asinine to me to say "Yeah I see that you counted 3.75 brpm and your watch is showing 9-12 brpm, that is what we were expecting, nothing to see here, we designed it to give you readings that are not accurate or replicable through real world examples because it was too accurate before when it gave a closer to reality reading" 

    I did notice that my Instinct 2X Solar gives me accurate breath rates that my Fenix 7X Pro Sapphire Solar can't seem to figure out. Not sure if they didn't get that same update or not. 

    This is acsolutely unacceptable and piss poor.  

  • I got the same answer from my breathwork activity. I'm not sure why I bothered giving them the activity and data from my connect account. The answer given is nonsensical and I have the impression this is not being taken seriously at all. I gave an example from before the update where the data was correct and after the update where my true breathing was 4x per minute as measured by timer but the average was 8x per minute.

  • I give up already , seems no one cares. Hopefully your instinct 2x still work good because it is based on a different platform. 

  • Now I can confirm. My instinct 2x solar tactic breathing rate is close to Apple Watch at sleep, about 1 rpm higher than Apple Watch. For yoga, instinct 2x solar tactic is about 2-3 rpm higher than Massimo for 20 mins tracking. 

    tactix 7, Fenix 8, epic 2 pro, Venu 3 all are 7 -8 point or double the Apple /massimo measurement. 

    what I also find out is instinct 2x solar Tactix stay with a software update of 16.11. This update was released in late 2024. 
    so, I turn off its automatic  software update. I don’t need the new software update or using my Tactix Fenix .. all expensive but broken tracker.

    as we know whatever the software update start at feb 2025 is screw up compare with the previous.

    why Garmin do this? Well I leave it for Garmin  management to figure out and tell the truth if they are honest.

    garmin better stop to use ENGINEER says as answer to their whatever agenda. It is obvious it is a bad design now compare with the previous. I keep my instinct 2x that’s the evidence/

     

  • Questa è un'ulteriore conferma del problema. Garmin deve prendere in considerazione di correggere il problema