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Fitness Age

RDav
over 3 years ago

Was an independent Fitness Age widget (not the V02 max measurement) supposed to be on the Fenix 6 Pro after the recent update. Only had the watxh 10 days, wondering if I have missed toggling something.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to Zange

    I have the Fenix 6 and I have V2 fitness age in GCM

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to 7017726

    Yeah, that is indeed true. I like the new metric or algorithm much more because it is more realistic. But of course you are right. The naming is confusing. Fitness is one part of biological age but there are more like body fat, muscles, diet, health (some sort of disease you have or taking drugs etc.). It then should be called biological age or something. Fitness has nothing to do with BMI f.e. Someone can have a high BMI but be muscular through and through. So If they do it like that they should call it differently. 

    But then again how would Garmin know what I eat in a day or if I am ill or needing to take pills etc. 

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to Zange

    You are correct about biological age. I've suggested Garmin should have retained Fitness Age as it was accurately based upon aerobic fitness (VO2max) while the new Fitness Age is a broader measure that provides a radically different number, mine going from 30 to 55.5. I'm 66. I know in terms of 'fitness', at a VO2max of 46 I'm well above the average 55.5-year-old. I'm not really sure how to evaluate the new metric even as I understood very well the old one.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to ∞
    ∞ said:
    Couldn't care less about these metrics, to be honest. Any numbers derived from wrist based heart rate readings, are flawed for me.

    Say it's not so! I've wrapped my whole life around my Garmin numbers and now I'm devastated.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to 7017726

    What is unclear to me is what role VO2max plays in the calculation now. It looks like that now it only checks whether you do enough high intensity training and deducts certain number of years .. but that is it, no? If you train even 10x harder than the threshold and have superior VO2MAX, it does not help to bring you "age" down more, no? Same thing is RHR, whether you have 30 or 50 plays no role, no? The only thing it checks if it is below certain threshold.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to 7017726

    My VO2 seems to only change when I have a power meter matched up with a chest strap HR monitor. I am 68, VO2 of 53 and "age" of 57. It used to read 20. It seems for cycling it compares your HR even in Z2 with your power output. I think it is great how it does it and actually very close to an actual lab test.

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to Skulbow

    I think people need to not get hung up on VO2 max.. it’s not a true marker of fitness, just one of a range of metrics, coupled with the fact that unless you do a proper gas exchange test in a lab, all Watch based algorithms are only indicative. There is plenty of evidence to show very fit people with very average VO2 max, and there’s plenty of evidence to show how to increase your VO2 max without increasing your overall fitness.. when I am training for ultras, lots of zone 2 long runs, my VO2 max drops, but surely if I can run 30-50 miles of the back of it, in the mountains then I am fit? When I train for 10kms and half marathons, my VO2 max increases.. so I run less, but faster and that makes me fitter?? I don’t think so..

    im surprised no one has noticed the real bite here - the only way my new ‘fitness age’ will get better/lower if I invest in a Garmin Smart scale.. there is no method of using another digital body mass scale to do this, or even enter real data from skin fold callipers, only the Garmin Smart Scale and the evidence of accuracy of body mass impedance scales is very poor.. it’s all about the bottom line.. Garmins bottom line

  • 0 over 3 years ago in reply to 7017726
    7017726 said:
    01001010 said:
    Couldn't care less about these metrics, to be honest. Any numbers derived from wrist based heart rate readings, are flawed for me.

    Say it's not so! I've wrapped my whole life around my Garmin numbers and now I'm devastated.

    With the updated Firstbeat metrics, I'm also devastated. Slight smile

    Might as well add that IRL I wasn't, had a 1h drive home after that 6h race, very happy and content. No optical HRM works well on my wrists. Not even the OH1 or Verity Sense, which both works perfectly on my upper arm.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 3 years ago

    Garmin.. everything is perfect