LTE on a Fenix?

I saw this question asked recently, and it got me thinking. Is this a useful feature? Would I pay an extra $50-100 for it (and what about the data plan cost)?

As for myself, I certainly wouldn't care to be Apple-Watching it and holding up the watch to my face as I go for a run. And I could care less about real-time syncs to Garmin Connect while my phone or wifi is out of range. And I definitely do not want to see ANY kind of battery life hit for having LTE...

...but...

One of the reasons I got a Fenix is so I don't have to carry my phone on runs for me, it does my GPS run tracking and plays my music, plus a lot more. But now I don't have an emergency contact system anymore, and as I'm running farther longer, I'm often thinking if my wife will have enough information to find me if I pass out or bite it or whatever. And if I start traveling again and run in a new location, I might end up having to take my phone for emergencies anyways.

So, what if the Fenix 7 had LTE? I don't need a speaker or a mic, I don't need it to take calls, I don't need to get my regular notifications, and I certainly don't need it to be always on. But it would be great if it was integrated into some of the safety features on the current Fenix line, like emailing/calling your emergency contact with GPS location if your watch stops moving during a workout or experiences a high impact (that would even be helpful if you lose your watch). You could also have a duress mode where you could constantly send GPS updates to a preset email or contact 911 for you if you activate it with a hotkey. Or you could send preset, one-off SMS/emails if you need. Fine, it can even be active for that Live Track feature if you want.

The point is, if the LTE feature is emergency-only or limited functionality, it doesn't need to be a battery hog, and it'd still be useful enough for me to pay a premium, and even a reasonable monthly fee when I know I'll need it. And it would free me completely from carrying a phone around, because I know if anything happens, I'll be able to get critical information to someone straight from my watch.

That little bit of peace of mind might even be enough for me to straight up upgrade from the F6.

Thoughts?

  • Nah, she's the better person! Living with me is hard enough :)

    On a more serious note, it opened our eyes to what's truly important in life. She's always at the finish lines of events I do, and she's my greatest coach.... :) 

  • Thank you very much for the kind words BTW. Very much appreciated, but she's the one who needs them more than me - as she has to live with this cantankerous old fart :)

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    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to Ɛpsilon

    That's great to hear.  I didn't mean to offend or say something uncomfortable, I just meant there's a lot of people who take the easy way out and bail.  It takes a bigger person to stay with a person who may with limitations.  With that I'm going to shut the hell up before I say something that's misunderstood.  Slight smile

  • "With that I'm going to shut the hell up before I say something that's misunderstood"

    That's my job :)  no problem mate, all taken in the generous spirit it was given. Bless you!

  • You know what they say about opinions... I've owed Garmin "smartwatches" since the Tactix came out so many years ago. I've had both, cellular version, and non-celluar smartwatches. Trade-offs are unavoidable. Some mentioned that cellular is useless and shouldn't be on a fitness device. I'll bet if that person out on the trail and injured, s/he would fine cellular to be quite useful.

  • I've owned Garmin smart devices since the Tactix came out years ago. You know what they say about opinions... Some mentioned that LTE/cellular doesn't belong on a fitness device. I'm guessing that person has never been injured on a trail miles from any help. It can literally save your life. Of course there's a chance you can't get a signal, but that would affect a phone as well.

    I have a Fenix 6 pro and a Galaxy watch 3 LTE version, and I wear my GW3 all the time. The Fenix is on my desk plugged in via USB collecting dust...

    There really isn't any comparison between the two when it comes to battery life (Fenix is way ahead), and some of the fitness functions as well. The GW3 can monitor BP (if that is important to you) pretty accurately (assuming you set it up right). The GW3 is just more convenient and it fully integrates with Windows,and about 60% with Mac (bump that to 80% if you use DEX), the Fenix can't even play on that court. Garmin connect is great, but integration with the OS is limited to Music and some file transfer features.

    Trade-offs are inevitable when you purchase any electronic gadget, especially a wearable. You don't want cellular, don't get a wearable with cellular.

    If the Fenix had LTE I would buy it.

  • You know what they say about opinions...

    What's clear to me is that there are as many use cases as there are opinions (and the correlation is fairly self-explanatory).

    Some people are either in the middle of the city where help is always an arm's length away or completely out in the wilderness where there is no cell phone signal at all, and to them, LTE on a watch makes no sense. You either just need to to raise your hand for assistance or you need a satellite phone.

    Some people have never been harassed/threatened in any kind of situation and don't see the value in having a connected "panic button," or think carrying a phone is the easy/obvious answer.

    And those are entirely valid perspectives. But I think we can all agree that they're not EVERYONE'S perspective. 

    In the main, I really like Garmin's approach on the 945 LTE. It's not perfect, but it's focused on what the watch does well and doesn't try to do something it would be bad at (especially compared to smartwatch platforms like the Apple Watch).

  • What feature of LTE would persuade you to buy a Fenix with it, even though it is a limited form of LTE compared with Apple or Samsung? Is LTE the dealbreaker that puts your GW3 ahead?

  • to them, LTE on a watch makes no sense. You either just need to to raise your hand for assistance or you need a satellite phone.

    That pretty well describes me. In every scenario I can think of where I might need help, I'll either be close enough to people/civilization to just raise my hand or yell for help, or I'll be far away from both people and LTE signal. In the first scenario, I carry nothing. In the second scenario, I carry an InReach.

    Some people have never been harassed/threatened in any kind of situation and don't see the value in having a connected "panic button,"

    I can understand that, but honestly if someone is threatening/harassing/attacking you, the odds of help showing up fast enough to make any difference, when you press a button on your LTE watch, are pretty slim. Better bet is to carry pepper spray, taser, etc.

  • My understanding is the Garmin LTE feature covers everywhere (at least in the countries it covers), so you could leave your InReach at home, or sell it. I don't know if that kind of coverage also applies to Apple watches or other LTE watches.