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Why I'm done with my Fenix 6

I just returned my Fenix 6 as defective, though I suspect the defects on my watch are shared by almost every watch in the line. I did so reluctantly. I really, really wanted to like it. On the off chance that someone from Garmin reads this message, I wanted to list my reasons. Nobody else has to agree with me, and feel free to ignore this or tell me why I'm wrong.

1. In 2021, instant pace is still a joke. It's been 20 years since Garmin introduced the first Forerunner. If they still can't tell you how fast you're running, they need to stop advertising it as a feature. Here is my pace from a 10k race I ran on 11/25/2020.



Tell me if you think this is fit for purpose. After this race I bit the bullet and bought a Stryd pod. For a while I was content. Then I realized my $800 "premium smartwatch" is literally now just a Bluetooth receiver for data from $300 worth of other sensors (foot pod, chest strap). How stupid do I have to be to think this is an acceptable solution?

2. Backlight-gate

My watch had the low-contrast blue backlight. I understand that it's not a defect; it's basically the same backlight as every generation of Garmin before it. My issue is mainly how Garmin handled the situation. If you have a high contrast backlight, how much would I have to pay you to switch to a washed-out blue display? Pretty sure the answer is greater than $0. One display is clearly higher quality (higher contrast, far better viewing angle). But Garmin insists that they are completely interchangeable, refuses to acknowledge that any rational customer would prefer one over the other, and charges the same price for both. Buying one of their watches is currently a game of getting a lucky draw from a grab bag. No thanks, I'd prefer to know what I'm buying.

3. New Years-gate

This was the straw that broke the camel's back. I understand that the problem is (most likely) on Sony's end, but I blame Garmin. I also blame COROS, Suunto, Polar, etc. The difference is that Garmin has been in business for 30 years and should not have ended up in this situation. In GPS, if you can't get date and time right, literally nothing else matters. Garmin contracted out the most critical component of their watches to a company that had no track record in the GPS market, and as it turns out, didn't understand or anticipate that leap years are a thing. Issues like this are the utterly predictable consequence, and so I absolutely blame Garmin. Even if it's an easy fix and minor inconvenience, it's an issue that should never have happened in the first place.

And for the record, the Sony chipset quality has been subpar even before the New Year's fiasco. Firmware 4.80 improved things to the point that it was *almost* as good as my Forerunner 230. Is that worth $800? Not to me.

So, that's it, I'm done with the Fenix 6, and maybe Garmin entirely. If I am a sucker maybe you will see me over on the Fenix 7 forum someday. But hopefully I've come to my senses and this will be it. Happy New Year, all.

  • Wow, this thread is turning into a real peach. 

    Let me get the popcorn and watch this one for a bit ;-) 

  • Completely agree at this point... The arguement is not perfection its how can previous cheaper versions of garmin (such as even the vivoactive) have better pace and distance accuracy than the f6 which comes at treble the cost... My f6 is currently unable it's that wrong in terms of pace... This isn't about absolute accuracy it's about just working and being as good as or better than previous versions.

    I will be testing the f6 again over the next week if it doesn't improve I will be going for the forerunning 945 and sending the f6 back. 

  • Just buy an Apple! You have to realise you are either a fan or not! When you believe in anything no logic is going to swing your vote. It is all too clear on the big stage let alone this little stage. Belief and faith trump logic every time.Innocent

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    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to scarboroughjohn

    That was cool !!!

  • Hi, all my messages have been erased but I remain in my position the fenix 6 is bugged in terms of cadence, speed, GPS, today over 13km a difference of 800m less is scandalous for a watch of 899 €.Rage

  • I decided that this watch is not worth the money

    I decided that it is worth the money. I did so based on more parameters than just instant pace.

    I have found no other watch that contains all the features I appreciate with my Fenix 6 and is also available at a lower price.

    I do however realise the limitations in WHR and have other HRM’s ($100) that I use when needed.

    I do realise that the instant pace is not good enough for when I do interval runs and therefore use a FootPod ($50). This was true even back when I owned the FR630.

    I do not care if it misses a few % on total distance run using GPS. When I need to know exactly how fast I am on a given course I participate in a race.

    I do appreciate the insane battery life

    I do appreciate the onboard maps (they even support routing for downloaded custom maps!!)

    I do appreciate the non plastic look-n-feel.

    I do appreciate being able to connect to my bike trainer (many $$) and running structured workouts

    I do appreciate seeing oncoming traffic on my watch connected to the bike radar ($150) while biking.

    So yes. I have spent some more than just the watch ($700). But I feel I have gotten a lot of value from it. So I’m keeping mine.

    Will definitely not toss it just because it sucks at instant pace if I forget to wear my FootPod.

    But yes I agree with you. Instant pace without any external sensor is really crappy. It could be better. To me that just doesn’t matter enough to be upset about.

  • I’m always surprised why someone “upgrades” from a watch that means their needs. The fenix 6 watch is not the best Garmin makes for running, it is a feature rich watch with a number of compromises. 

    its nice looking, but heavy, it has a big screen but not colourful, it has a long battery duration but low powered gps.

    Reading most of the complaints they are related to price, pace and wrist heart monitoring.

    you paid the price, scratch that, WHR you know the watch is heavy, got a metal backplate on in a poor location for tracking activities, read the reviews, now pace, it’s I do get from people, reading in poor gps areas and running slowly you will see the issues but the reviews also talk about this. GPS can be good or bad and limitations of form over function.

    Personally I have a stryd but at the end of the day do we really care if we run 9.98 or 10.02? Or if we are running 6 min mile or 5:50 or 6:20, you are running to how you feel.

    lets put it this way, you buy for the style and long battery life, then which feature you can’t get on another watch. Otherwise just get an Apple Watch or a base model device if you just care about pace 

  • Personally I have a stryd but at the end of the day do we really care if we run 9.98 or 10.02? Or if we are running 6 min mile or 5:50 or 6:20, you are running to how you feel.

    It is not like that. If the error was only 10-20 sec/mile that would be quite acceptable. But I often see errors that are up to 3 min/mile. For example, I know I am running 8-9 min/mile and I see my watch showing me 11-12 min/mile. On trails it is consistently slower by one min/mile on average relative to its own mile split times.

    And Stryd isn't a good solution for trail running.

  • Agree with you but when there is a difference of 1100m over 15km there is a problem, the watch returns to Garmin for repair or exchange.

  • Most of what you said is sensible. But

    at the end of the day do we really care if we run 9.98 or 10.02? Or if we are running 6 min mile or 5:50 or 6:20, you are running to how you feel.

    This completely misstates the magnitude of the issue. If it was an issue of +/- 15 seconds I would be happy. Garmin used to be able to achieve better than that. Maybe some of their other watches still can. It’d be nice if Garmin accurately stated the capabilities of their various watches, then this entire debate could have been avoided. But just to be perfectly clear, the Fenix 6 can’t reliably tell you if you’re running 6:00 or 10:00/mile.

    If you are running by feel, you don’t need a GPS watch at all. That’s also a valid choice that I take no issue with.