Smart Trainer and HR monitor

Hi,

With recent update, finally my Fenix 6 can connect to my smart bike trainer, which is great!

However, there is some tricky issue I don't know how to solve.

The problem is that whenever I connect to my bike trainer, I cannot get the HR monitor to work again. Neither the on watch display nor the ANT+ receiver for Zwift on PC to receive the HR broadcasting shows any valid HR.

Maybe the SW is trying to get HR reading from the trainer? But my trainer cannot measure HR at all.

I guess this is a more generic questions: when there are more than one sensor for the same type are connected, how to choose which one to use?

I wish my bike trainer can provide power information to the watch so I can see the Garmin Training Effect, but in the same time, I need the wrist HR monitor to work.

Any suggestion?

Thanks!

  • And after some more discussion with Kinetic, here is their answer: Disappointed

    FE-C is all you'll be able to use at this time.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Jun_Li

    hi,

    go with the link posted from DCRainmaker

    as you already told it was not for your type of trainer

    you are out of luck ... sell it Slight smile

    happy & safe sporting

  • Former Member,

    Well, as a matter of fact, I have been doing some hacking. I got a Adafruit board and did some programming myself so it can receive FEC and convert it to power meter profile. So it actually works for me personally. Smiley

    The reason I complained here is to hope to get more to make things easier as Garmin is getting the FEC working...

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Jun_Li

    Slight smile problem solved Thumbsup

    but FE-C is working

    this is limited to one headunit or trainer app, only one source can control the trainer

    guess you only want power by using Garmin trainer because your smart trainer supplier does not provide power/speed ...

    happy & save sporting & smart power biking

  • Former Member,

    No, that is not the thing I was complaining. What I was complaining is that when FEC is connected to Fenix (thus I don't need my hacking device in the middle), the wrist HR sensor on the watch does not work anymore so I lost HR reading.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Jun_Li

    me sorry, forgot about that Slight smile

    happy & safe sporting

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Jun_Li

    let me guess your blanks Slight smile

    wrist hr does not work when....

    work meaning the green lights do not ligth up

    ro

    the green lights lit up but the watch does not register hr

    or

    while transmitting wirst hr via ANT+ the watch does not register wrist hr

    or

    while transmitting wrist hr via BLE the watch does not register wrist hr

    or

    ...

    take the simple setup

    turn every bluetooth connections with phone(connect) and computer(trainer app) off

    turn off the power sensor in the watches sensor menu (the one you use with the hack interface)

    start an indoor ride free(fec) (without transmitting hr)

    result is ?

    ...

    happy & safe sporting

  • Former Member,

    That is a good question. I will have to try it in more detail later.

    What I have observed is:

    I have the HR displayed on the watch in the "indoor bike" data screen as one of the fields. With my hacking power meter used, I get power reading and HR reading displayed on my watch. At the same time, I set to broadcast my HR during activity so Zwift on my computer also receives and displays HR on computer screen.

    Now when I connect the FEC trainer to my watch, the HR reading on my watch display will show "--" without any number. And Zwift displays a number before the FEC trainer was connected to my watch. And when I get away from the trainer (I was playing with it from distance once), I saw the HR display on watch went back to normal when trainer disconnects, but then went wrong again when I got closer to the trainer and reconnected.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Jun_Li

    thank you for the detailed setup

    think the ant+ used for transmitting hr and FE-C are private channels (only a few channels are available)

    • that is why I suggested to transmit hr over bluetooth instead of ant+
    watch display will show "--" without any number
    • did not check the green lights ?
    Now when I connect the FEC trainer to my watch
    • your interface also working ?
    And when I get away from the trainer (I was playing with it from distance once), I saw the HR display on watch went back to normal when trainer disconnects, but then went wrong again when I got closer to the trainer and reconnected.
    • that sounds the story without the blanks Thumbsup
    • any chance scanning for ant+ (you have the knowledge because of your interface Slight smile)
    • with a cellphone or other scan device ?

    test with transmit hr over bluetooth thingy

    eventually you will figure this out Slight smile

    happy & safe sporting

  • Former Member,

    I will try it later and give you more details.

    In the meantime, I think I was using Bluetooth to transmit HR.

    If I understood correctly, "transmitting HR during activity" only used ANT+ before some recent FW version? That was why my hacking device also receives HR over ANT+ and convert it to BLE for Zwift to use. And when I was doing the experiment without my hacking device a couple of days ago, I found out that I plugged in a BLE-USB adapter to my computer instead of an ANT-USB adapter by mistake (I have both and they look similar so it is confusing). So actually when I search for HR sensor in Zwift, I was using Bluetooth instead ANT+ as I thought I was. Slight smile