Sleep detection outside of GC predefined sleep hours

My Fenix 6 Saphire records good(or very good) the sleep data during the GC predefined hours. 

But, outside of those hours it has no idea when I sleep. Why do we have this behavior? I would like to have all the sleep time counted, even if I do not often have sleep in the afternoon. 

Did someone managed to have this done?

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    I'd just settle for semi-accurate sleep data during my predefined sleep hours. I don't expect the REM sleep stages to be accurate since it's really just an educated guess (tho Garmin's seems significantly worse than others) but I do expect the watch to be able to tell the difference between me being awake, in a light sleep or in a deep sleep and it's just awful at that.

    If I'm awake in bed futzing around on my tablet, the Garmin shows me in a light sleep for most of that time while my under-the-mattress tracker  and wrist worn FitBit trackers show me as being awake. It also shows me in a deep sleep during periods of time where it shows a high level of movement, which seems pretty unlikely during a deep sleep.

    About the only thing that the Garmin's "sleep tracking" is good for is telling me when I was in or out of the bed. Pretty useless, imo!

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    hi, Grimacing

    this is an endless discussion.

    I will try to share my experience with 5X+ and 6Xpro.

    I have the Normal Bed/Wake Time set between A-B (A=20:30 B=8:30)

    Garmin states that will monitor the sleep in this interval.

    due to some job works I have to do during the night, I try to "steal" a few hours of sleep whenever I can.

    • I went in bed around 20:00  and wake up at 00:00
    • after sync, Connect showed 20:00 - 00:00 as sleep - all good and promising!
    • after the job done at 03:00, I went to bed.
    • wake up at 09:00

    My expectation is to show something like:

    1. 20:00 - 00:00 sleep
    2. awake 00:00 -03:00
    3. sleep 03:00 - 09:00

    but no, after final sync only shows the last interval 03:00- 09:00 as sleep

    maybe the awake interval was too large to consider a single sleep 20:00 - 09:00 with 3 hours awake.

    as long as you sleep in the interval you declare/set:

    • Garmin will measure but only one long sleep interval, depending on the awake duration
      • if awake is short will be recorded as is and sleep continues.
    • will adjust the beginning and the end of the sleep even are outside the interval
      • I went once to bed at 08:30 and slept till 11:30 and was recorded.

    the same is with taking a nap in the afternoon. never recorded as sleep even I set Bedtime 20:30 - and waketime 20:29 (to cover 24h minus 1 min).

    My feeling is Garmin considers a real sleep a continuous interval (with short awake periods)  that starts before midnight.

    the good news is body-battery.... body-battery increase when taking a nap...and as well increased when that 20:00 - 00:00 not counted finally in sleep.

    I still check my sleep stats but for me body-battery counts (and is acordingly as I feel myself)...

    this is just me, 

    robert

     

     

  • Garmin is just not made for day naps, just night sleep.

  • Ya the Connect software isn't designed to account for multiple sleep sessions in one day. As a guy who doesn't nap, that's fine for me, but I can see where it gets tricky if you work/sleep odd hours and tend to nap. It's not an issue with the watch or watch software, though, it's a restriction in the Connect app. They probably could integrate that function eventually, but maybe people just haven't been that vocal about wanting it, so it's a low priority.

    On the plus side, my watch seems to track my sleep times just fine, even if those times fall outside the "sleep window" I specified in my settings. I have me sleep schedule set to 11pm-7am, and today it shows my sleep last night from 10:34pm-7:55am, which sounds about right.

  • You can do sleep at day! But if done, there is no tracking at night. Thats an old problem since years. Only one sleep is tracked at a day.

  • This irritates me, autosleep on my Apple Watch is very accurate and logs sleep without any interaction.  I do use my Apple Watch for sleep tracking and also clip to my shorts when running so I have a life line.  

  • I agree. Sleep tracking is terrible compared to Apple Watch (albeit through 3rd party apps)

  • What makes me sad is my Fenix 3 hr recorded sleep much more accurately than my Fenix 6x Sapphire ... Plus the 3 also had a option to state you went to sleep which is missing in 6. 3 detected iwas awake regardless that I chilled in bed before or after sleep, which 6 does not.  Brutall

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    My Fenix 6x Sapphire said I had a very deep sleep last night but my watch was laying on a desk :)))

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Former Member

     Sleep tracking is awful. I got awake manybtimes during the night but it doesn’t detect accurately periods awake, even if i push the light button to see what time is it!! 
    I don’t really care about MDR, etc but i expected garmin to  at leastw if I’m awake or not
    is there a way to edit phases, correct timeand turn light sleep time into awake?