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CIQQA-3123

Vivoactive 6 Simulator problems

The Vivoactive 6 simulator does not seem to respond to a Menu command, and only responds to the buttons in a very tiny area along the edge of the button where it meets the body of the watch in the simulator. 

The Vivoactive 5 simulator operates as expected so it looks to me like this is a set of simulator bugs.

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  • But in the VA6 manual around the 2nd page under "TouchScreen Tips" it says " • Tap and hold an item on the watch face to bring up contextual information, such as glances or menus, if available."

    That sounds like standard, legacy touchscreen menu behavior; i.e. tap and hold to bring up contextual menu.  But doesn't work in the VA6 simulator.

    No, that's referring to long-pressing a complication on the literal watch face (the screen that displays the clock while you're not doing other things with the watch.) e.g. Long-press HR icon to open HR glance

    Besides, afaik, the only Garmin watch in recent memory which used a long-press of the screen to open settings (or a context-sensitive menu) is Vivoactve 3, and that's because it only has one button. (A long press of the button opens the controls menu.)

    There's lots of anecdotal evidence that onMenu doesn't exist in VA6.

    - DCR's review explicitly said there's no longer a universal shortcut to open settings

    The next user interface change is that you can’t get to the settings by simply long-holding the lower right button. Rather, that’s now going to set up a quick-access control (such as accessing heart rate broadcasting or other features).

    Instead, to access settings you’ll need to first swipe from the right (or tap the upper right button), which brings you to the main activities page. Here you can jump to starting a workout (like in the past), or other apps:

    But to access settings, you’ll swipe down till you find ‘Settings’, and tap that open:

    ...

    - Speaking of manuals:

    -- The manual for Vivoactive 3 has the following text in the overview (which usually, or always, describes all the universal button and touchscreen functions for every Garmin device):

    Touchscreen

    Swipe up or down to scroll through widgets, features, and menus.

    Tap to select.

    Swipe right to go back to the previous screen.

    During an activity, swipe right to view the watch face and widgets.

    During an activity, double-tap to mark a new lap, start a new set of reps, or advance to the next stage of a workout.

    Hold to view a menu of device settings and options for the current screen.

    -- The manual for Vivoactive 5 has the following text in the overview

    Back (Menu) button

    Press to return to the previous screen, except during an activity.

    During an activity, press to mark a new lap, start a new set or pose, or advance to the next stage of a workout.

    Hold to view a menu of watch settings and options for the current screen.

    Notice how the manual for Vivoactive 6 has no such reference in the overview to any kind of "menu shortcut", either via button or touchscreen

    www8.garmin.com/.../GUID-9E473CE2-392C-4A26-B803-15EF1F5DB3AD.html

    - It doesn't work in the simulator

    - The CIQ announcement for the SDK that was released with VA6 explicitly calls out the need for CIQ apps to support showing the action menu indicator (which is a new function for CIQ), and responding to the user swiping left on it, almost as if there's no other built-in way to open a context-sensitive menu

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  • But in the VA6 manual around the 2nd page under "TouchScreen Tips" it says " • Tap and hold an item on the watch face to bring up contextual information, such as glances or menus, if available."

    That sounds like standard, legacy touchscreen menu behavior; i.e. tap and hold to bring up contextual menu.  But doesn't work in the VA6 simulator.

    No, that's referring to long-pressing a complication on the literal watch face (the screen that displays the clock while you're not doing other things with the watch.) e.g. Long-press HR icon to open HR glance

    Besides, afaik, the only Garmin watch in recent memory which used a long-press of the screen to open settings (or a context-sensitive menu) is Vivoactve 3, and that's because it only has one button. (A long press of the button opens the controls menu.)

    There's lots of anecdotal evidence that onMenu doesn't exist in VA6.

    - DCR's review explicitly said there's no longer a universal shortcut to open settings

    The next user interface change is that you can’t get to the settings by simply long-holding the lower right button. Rather, that’s now going to set up a quick-access control (such as accessing heart rate broadcasting or other features).

    Instead, to access settings you’ll need to first swipe from the right (or tap the upper right button), which brings you to the main activities page. Here you can jump to starting a workout (like in the past), or other apps:

    But to access settings, you’ll swipe down till you find ‘Settings’, and tap that open:

    ...

    - Speaking of manuals:

    -- The manual for Vivoactive 3 has the following text in the overview (which usually, or always, describes all the universal button and touchscreen functions for every Garmin device):

    Touchscreen

    Swipe up or down to scroll through widgets, features, and menus.

    Tap to select.

    Swipe right to go back to the previous screen.

    During an activity, swipe right to view the watch face and widgets.

    During an activity, double-tap to mark a new lap, start a new set of reps, or advance to the next stage of a workout.

    Hold to view a menu of device settings and options for the current screen.

    -- The manual for Vivoactive 5 has the following text in the overview

    Back (Menu) button

    Press to return to the previous screen, except during an activity.

    During an activity, press to mark a new lap, start a new set or pose, or advance to the next stage of a workout.

    Hold to view a menu of watch settings and options for the current screen.

    Notice how the manual for Vivoactive 6 has no such reference in the overview to any kind of "menu shortcut", either via button or touchscreen

    www8.garmin.com/.../GUID-9E473CE2-392C-4A26-B803-15EF1F5DB3AD.html

    - It doesn't work in the simulator

    - The CIQ announcement for the SDK that was released with VA6 explicitly calls out the need for CIQ apps to support showing the action menu indicator (which is a new function for CIQ), and responding to the user swiping left on it, almost as if there's no other built-in way to open a context-sensitive menu

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