Erg IQ

Installation & Configuration

ErgIQ can be installed from the Connect IQ store using the link below. Once installed, a limited set of application settings are available for the user to adjust. These settings as well as the pairing procedure are outlined in the user manual.



Requirements

ErgIQ will connect to a compatible fitness equipment system, the following is currently supported:

  • Concept2 Rower/SkiErg with PM5 (Firmware v22.015/156/722 or greater)


Known Issues

This is a BETA and therefore it has some items being worked through. For issues relating to FIT recording, pairing or Garmin Connect, even if they are listed here please report that you have the issue as well. This will help accurately determine the scale of the problem.

  • workout metrics are incorrect: distance, calories, stroke count (upgrade PM5 to BETA v22.014 or greater using C2 Utility if your comfortable doing this, otherwise it will be fixed in the next release)
  • Fenix3, FR920XT, and vivoactive HR have issues pairing (see post #4 for temporary workarounds until resolved)
  • vivoactive doesn't save last lap and session data correctly (issue being investigated)
  • Garmin Connect doesn't integrate developer FIT fields using native number mapping for summary, laps, or record fields


Non-Garmin FIT Analysis Sites

ErgIQ takes advantage of the newer defined developer FIT fields. These fields are a new standard that are not currently recognized at all non-Garmin sites. The following sites are known to work but others may work as well, this is not an exhaustive listing:



ErgIQ Reviews or Other Information

  • rowingmusings ErgIQ Review - Review
  • When I used it the distance measured ended up not being recorded.

    Some features that might be useful would be the ability to have multiple pairing codes stored so you can pair with a ski-erg or the rower.


    Was the distance recorded in the session information at the bottom under the Connect IQ section? I might need to put a sample up for everyone to see what is expected and where things are. Connect won't fill in the distance at the top at this time.
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 7 years ago
    Forerunner 235

    This looks very promising. Did two approx. 5-600 meter rows just to test.

    Forerunner 235, firmware 7.10
    PM5, firmware 22.014 beta

    Test 1: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1495498345

    - ErgData NOT connected
    - HRM-3 chest strap
    - No strokes recorded, at least no strokes appear in the graph

    Test 2: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1495502290

    - ErgData connected
    - HRM-3 chest strap
    - 6 strokes recorded

    General observations:

    - No pace recorded
    - Duration is ok
    - Garmin distance is 0
    - IQ distance ok
    - About 3 seconds before any stroke rate data show in graph
    - The numbers on the watch dont update in realtime, there is a lag of about 1-2 seconds
    - After a workout is completed on the PM5, the watch shows "random" numbers

    Attached corresponding Concept2 logbook entries as images.

    Great job, lcj2!
  • This looks very promising. Did two approx. 5-600 meter rows just to test.

    Forerunner 235, firmware 7.10
    PM5, firmware 22.014 beta

    Test 1: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1495498345

    - ErgData NOT connected
    - HRM-3 chest strap
    - No strokes recorded, at least no strokes appear in the graph

    Test 2: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1495502290

    - ErgData connected
    - HRM-3 chest strap
    - 6 strokes recorded

    General observations:

    - No pace recorded
    - Duration is ok
    - Garmin distance is 0
    - IQ distance ok
    - About 3 seconds before any stroke rate data show in graph
    - The numbers on the watch dont update in realtime, there is a lag of about 1-2 seconds
    - After a workout is completed on the PM5, the watch shows "random" numbers

    Attached corresponding Concept2 logbook entries as images.

    Great job, lcj2!

    I noticed a conflict with iq stroke rate and strokes counted by accelerometer when you wear the watch or you don't wear but you move it
    If you don't move it, right stroke rate is exported. If you move it, the datas exported will be from accelerometer.
    I made an interval workout leaving the Fenix3 on the rower. During the rest, I moved it, and when I uploaded the activity to trainingpeaks, I noticed 2 strokes in 30'...
    Garmin should permit to overwrite the main datas, with iq datas (also on each lap)
  • So there are a couple things going on here, the calorie count being wrong and some other data points are corrected by the PM5 BETA FW 22.014 which you can get using the C2 Utility if you are comfortable doing so or you can wait till the new production firmware rolls out. The PM Version & ErgIQ Version are errors in Garmin Connect, the website doesn't show them right and the Garmin Connect Mobile application does show them correctly. The distance issue not matching is a reported issue but I need people as you've done here expressing that they want these types of things working.


    running latest pm5 beta software and have had best success with Edge 1000 Explore, looks great in landscape mode and PM5 starts and stops timer. Single press of PM5 menu button saves the row and Edge auto connects to Wifi and uploads to Garmin to auto push to Training Peaks and Strava. It's annoying that no distance displays with Garmin or Strava but now does on TP and with splits. The GC charts are not as reflective of the Row as the iQ charts. GCM also shows 0 distance and only allows a maximum of 300m distance if the activity is edited on an iOS device. To get more distance the activity needs changing from Indoor Row to Strength training and even then sometimes gets over ridden. Pairing with 735 and Fenix 3HR has happened but a Row of more than 5 minutes has not been possible without either device just stopping to collect or receive data.
  • Thank you. I've been looking forward to something like this for a long time.

    It worked with my 920XT this evening. After I upgraded the firmware, it was easy to set up and getting working but I only did 30s or to try it out. Watch linked to Garmin Connect and then on to Strava ok. I was using the 22 firmware and will try the PM5 BETA FW 22.014 that you mention later. I didn't use an HR strap.

    Some brief comments:

    1. I was pleasantly surprised (and a little confused) that I didn't have to press the start or stop buttons on my watch. That could be mentioned in your user manual.

    2. Garmin Connect shows two stroke rates. One is zero all the time. The other is the IQ stroke rate and that has the data.

    3. GC also has "elevation", which for some reason is -5m throughout. But it's probably not necessary on an indoor rower!

    4. GC recognises it as an indoor rower.

    5. Speed is shown in m/s, I couldn't see how to change that to a per 500m pace (but those units are shown in the stats at the bottom - albeit, it's a zero).

    6. Distance is shown as 0m on Garmin Connect (and same on Strava).

    7. Calories is shown as 0.

    8. Watts don't seem to be recorded.

    9. I downloaded the file to Golden Cheetah to analyse it. Golden Cheetah accepted it fine.

    10. When I looked at the file in Golden Cheetah I could see the "Distance-2" and "Cadence-2" numbers and they seemed to make sense. I copied the Distance-2 numbers to distance and Golden Cheetah then allowed me to analyse things a bit more.

    So this is looking very promising indeed, thank you again!
  • Now with the Beta firmware and a very short row:

    1. Garmin Connect has some random stroke rates (not the IQ one) for a few seconds.

    2. Garmin Connect shows the data (e.g. distance) for IQ but the 'normal' distance is zero. The PM version and ERG IQ version are both 0.

    Will do a proper row tomorrow.
  • I had a go this morning and couldn't get it to work. My 920XT found my HR monitor but not the PM5 - saying "Ant Failed CIQ Error". I turned the watch off and tried again but got the same error message. When I binned the HR strap it still would not work.
  • Fenix 3 missing power data

    First of all, great job with the app! I've been looking for something like this for some time now and I'm glad that I found this app.

    I have tested the app today with a Fenix 3 and the PM5 running firmware V22 (not the beta version).

    The pairing works very smooth and fully automatically. I was surprised that the app didn't have to be started but did so by itself. It worked very well, didn't lose connection and always showed exactly the same power and pace values as the PM5. It did not, however, save those values for whatever reason. Here's the activity: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1498225304

    The pace, distance, stroke rate etc. are correct. The only thing missing is power even though I saw it on the watch the whole time.

    Syncing the activity with TrainingPeaks worked as well, the data that's on GarminConnect show up. I guess that once GC gets power data, TP would make use of it to calculate IF, TSS and so on from it. Currently, all these values are based on HR.

    So the only issues I have right now are:
    • power data missing
    • no manual start option (thus breaks between intervals don't get recorded)


    Thanks again
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 7 years ago
    Forerunner 235, firmware 7.10
    PM5, firmware 22.014 beta


    Test 3: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1499175099

    - IQ heart rate seems correct
    - Garmin heart rate is not correct
    - IQ kCal is the same as ErgData/Logbook
    - Garmin cal is about 70% of IQ kCal

    This 10k piece was an aborted half marathon, and nothing happened on the watch when aborting on the PM5.
  • I had a go this morning and couldn't get it to work. My 920XT found my HR monitor but not the PM5 - saying "Ant Failed CIQ Error". I turned the watch off and tried again but got the same error message. When I binned the HR strap it still would not work.


    The FR920XT has been recorded as having pairing issues which don't appear to be related to the application. I've reported this to Garmin and once there is something either I can fix or is fixed I'll report back in the forums. Sorry to hear you're having an issue.