Lots of unfair developers (Garmin, where are you?)

What interests me is: are you partners of Garmin? As far as I understand, you are not affiliated with Garmin in any way. Why don't company representatives respond in this thread, but are in constant contact with you? Why should I contact Garmin through you if I run into a dishonest developer problem?

As for you specifically, in the thread there is evidence of at least two developers who wind up reviews for themselves and you do not react to this in any way, referring to the fact that Garmin did not find anything suspicious. From which I conclude that Garmin does not have a perfect system for determining mass winding of reviews, and you will not do anything until you get a go-ahead from Garmin.

Nothing was fixed.

This developers have been in trending everyday for the last months.

Talking about unfair devs.

Ershovlad, you have updated your app on 10 octomber, gave yourself some fake reviews. You are mostly all the time in trending as well. You are doing exactly what you are complaining about. Also, get the hardware button send the user to your website, where they can make a payment. How is that fair? And how is that visible? You are very dishonorable. Also you said it yourself, you gave fake reviews to other devs as well.

I would really love it, if garmin would do a check on your reviews as well. Wouldn't it be funny if you would be banned for the exact behaviour you are crying about.

Stop blaming me. I am not doing what the developers mentioned in the topic did. My application is in the TOP-50 in trends only because after the update I received 4 reviews, three of them left no comment, but these are the people who bought the license for the application.

Hi,

No we aren't official partners, but I do want to keep a good relationship with Garmin, so when I think some of our customers are causing problems on the platform, I try to get it resolved as soon as possible, preferably with their help.

Why company representatives don't respond to this thread I do not know, perhaps they are still trying to get this "vulnerability" fixed before communicating about it?

And I never said I won't do anything without a go-ahead of Garmin, but when I take action only on my end, that will cause a very bad user experience for customers installing the apps, and that is also something I want to avoid.

So if action needs to be taken, I'd prefer to do it on both ends, in the appstore and in our system, and I cannot do that without Garmin's help.

Also if Garmin never responded to my questions in September, I would probably have taken action myself, the reason I did not do anything is because they specifically told me the developers weren't doing anything wrong.

I am not blaming you. To be honest, I blame garmin for not fixing the issue on their side. It's clear there is a way that devs give reviews to themselves. If they would fix that, none of you would be able to do that anymore and this plague would be extinguished.

But, what triggers me a little, is that you complain about the system, while abusing the system.

I have nothing personal against you. But have a look at this stats:

Garmin app:

Your app:

Garmin downloads: 750k , 376 total reviews, average ~3.5

Your app: 28k downloads, 281 total reviews, average ~5

Don't insult our intelligence please!

And that's okay. Because I always listen to my users, I respond to every email and every feedback. At the time, Garmin branded watch faces were often not updated after being published in the store. You have to be not the smartest not to notice this if you are a longtime Garmin user.

By your logic, the most popular watch face MagicDast also does not deserve to be in the TOP. But you are wrong in your judgments. The difference is that we get honest feedback from real users.

And you, like Bodya, are trying to offend other people, catch them in something, find a catch everywhere. Because of people like you, other people are afraid to complain about the system because they might be accused of something.

I just want the system to be better, and to have less maneuvers for dishonest actions in it. It doesn't matter if it affects me or not, it will help thousands of other developers and millions of other users in one way or another.

That does not invalidate my point.

As a matter of fact, TheMagician is one of the guys that is doing this for the longest time.

I personally observed his reviews count go down by 300 in one day. Then after an update, getting 30 reviews in under an hour. Also he is one of the devs always fake reviewing his apps. As I said above, the problem is on the garmin side of the business. They must fix the issue in their system.

Kristof Verpoorten said:

Everyone loves his creations and agrees he is not a spammer (this is what he creates: https://gallery.fitbit.com/developer/752c7f12-8f3b-44db-998f-f2e79866d031)

Some of these seem to be the same sort of easy-to-generate stuff as the "flower" watch faces.

120 watch faces arms like a huge number to me.

If you go into the web based store by way of Garmin Express You can see what's available for your device and in the different orders.

This way, it knows your device.  In the mobile app it knows that already.  Then you get something like this:

I did see a bug report where you may only see the first 4 pages in some cases