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Not following route - why?

Why is the 530 not faithfully following the route - it seems to recalculate it's own path and avoid this section of my planned route.

First time it happened it confused me so much i nearly knocked into another cyclist - i've now gone back to the same spot 3 x and it consistently always not doesn't follow my route (photoshopped green arrow showing my route (magenta color)). Instead it reroutes to the main road......I have disabled recalculation - so it shouldn't recalculate and should just blindly follow my route ????

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to dpawlyk

    Hmm...how do i do that ? It's the Seaford Wetlands Trail (Victoria, Australia) - there's a couple of these 'gates' around the wetlands park . From my experience above the Garmin will not route correctly even though i could manually lay a route through it.

    Maybe i'll just manually route it the way i want and not follow the Edge's TBT arrows while i'm in the wetlands area - yeah i'll do just that.

  • https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-38.09512/145.14430

    It's another Kissing Gate (acording to OSM with survey as the source).

    It looks like a kissing gate on Maps.

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-38.0951699,145.1436224,3a,75y,284.45h,75.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szneYjR_gNJK7qKayLz5T5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

    How do you get your bike through it/over it?

  • It's a kissing gate, of sorts. It's really long too.

    You roll your bike into the slot, move the gate, and roll the bike out.

    The sign also shows that bicycles are allowed.

    This is a case where the OSM "model" of the world (where kissing gates are intended to allow pedestrians only) doesn't match reality.

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    It was wrongly defined in OSM.

    It was defined as a barrier on the path. It's a barrier to the path (which is different).

    I fixed that and defined the access to allow cyclists and pedestrians (according to the sign visible in Google streetview. Updating the access should fix it but whether it does in fact depends on how the maps are compiled.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to dpawlyk

    Thinking out loud - I could be wrong - the edge could still probably route through it even though RWGPS wouldn't allow me to lay a route through it ?

    This is different from my initial post - in my initial post there was no connection from the road to the trail so understandbly the 530 would not / could not route - it would not jump the road to reach the trail.

  • Thinking out loud - I could be wrong - the edge could still probably route through it even though RWGPS wouldn't allow me to lay a route through it ?

    That RWGPS doesn't route through it is some indication that the Edge might not.

    The Edge might still route through it. You can try it at home and zoom the map to see what the routing works.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to dpawlyk

    completed the ride - the edge route successfully through the 'gates' / barriers - it wasn't anything as dramatic as that - there were just structures to funnel the users to the path. So the experiment worked - as long as there's no disjoint in the road/trail in the 530's map, the 530 will navigate the laid route accordingly.

    A few spots were spotty in the map page in the park but i'll blame that on the underlying map information.

  • Hi, thanks for doing that test.  Just to confirm that this was when you were following a course that you had created (Strava, RWGPS, Komoot etc) and not on the device A->B nav?

    If you fancy creating an OSM login then you can add the missing or spotty detail to the map yourself.  This will filter down in time to the Garmin Cycle Maps or much faster if you choose one of the other OSM based maps (OpenFiets, OpenTopo, TalkyToaster etc, etc, etc).

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 4 years ago in reply to Daveymorrisuk

    Yes - i created the course in RWGPS and installed it into the 530. 

  • Hello!

    I have similar issue, Edge 530 makes suggest short cut (pink color lane) and not suggesting to follow course (black/dark line)

    see picture, course continues to right side, but Edge suggest to go straiggt and cut off one that loop..

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sf4A99DL8g82jmpm7

    recalculation - OFF

    is there any other setting to enable/disable?

  • You could turn off Turn Guidance under Menu>Navigation>Courses>Course Options>Turn Guidance = OFF, but you will need to rely on the map for navigation unless the course has embedded course points.

    Differences can occur if the course was created using a different map to that on the Edge or from a ride actually ridden by the creator.