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Purple Route Obscures Critical Navigation Detail

crispgarmin
2 months ago

Hi,

This topic has various names and locked threads over the years, mostly due to personal preference.

But I have found when off-road and bikepacking, following routes in unfamiliar terrain that not being able to see the underlying topographic detail like if I should be on a road, track or path is a critical omission in navigation.

I already have to have a profile where segments and climbs are turned off (why oh why on an out-and-back route where the > direction arrow clearly knows which way I am going does the ggeen/yellow category climb overlay obscure my route when I am hading *downhill* !) as these cover up even more detail.

But what is needed is ideally the ability to make the route semi-transparent to see if the turn ahead is an obvious gravel road or obscure path (or at least make the track thin so I can see road's wider than the route).

The transparency (first two-bytes in the #hexcolour) for the style has no effect still and I havent been able to get bg_width or fg_width to apply either.

Again, I think this is not a colour preference thing but a critical feature for route-following navigation.

 Cris

example:

<style field="MPM_ACTV_CRS_CLR" scale="0.5" border="0.1"><color><primary day="#ffff0000" night="#00f8ccf8"/><secondary day="#ff000000" night="#fff8f8f8"/></color></style>

Previous posts:
https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-1040-series/366837/route-color---change-to-ffff00ff

https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-530/290989/how-to-make-course-line-easier-to-see?pifragment-1290=8#pifragment-1290=1

https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-6-series/204247/how-to-change-the-colour-of-navigation-course-follow-line-with-your-own-map-theme#pifragment-464=4&pifragment-1292=6

  • 0 2 months ago in reply to L.Rouge

    It #only worked when both primary and secondary were #00000000 so no outline casing tramlines (yet) which would have been nice!  I'm going to try chevrons-only for a while on some routes.

    See examples below of how in the first image the turn onto the Great Glen Way is now clearly a footpath and not guessing.  But in the second two images how climbs (or a route) completely obscure the detail that was needed that the turn off a road was onto a track that turned into a footpath.  Really essential off road navigation needs!

    Excellent maps by https://talkytoaster.me.uk/

     

  • 0 2 months ago in reply to L.Rouge
    L.Rouge said:
    Yes, pretty much the garmin philosophy but they could, at minimal cost, make it so much more useful for customers. I am using my garmins less & less, I waste too much time on playing with garmins rather than just riding, all I wanted for christmas was a bigger map cursor, I won't be buying a 1050, oh well.

    I suspect it’s less than 1% of customers who care about this. Garmin can’t make everybody happy. Garmin is likely a better judge of how much things cost and whether it’s worthwhile anyway.