CPU Fenix 8 and enduro

Choan 9 months ago

It would be great than Garmin communicate about the CPU used in there watch.

is it the same cpu in both enduro and fenix 8 watches ?

its seems it isnt.

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2529455 9 months ago in reply to Choan +6

Choan said:
But that would be great from garmin to be open about hardware inside the watch, soc, ram etc... That should be mandatory for all computer device asking for 1k$...

Maybe if you're Apple and you…
5096437 5 months ago in reply to sis651 +3

Recycled hardware for much higher premium price in the Fenix 8. Nice. Garmin fools customers and kicks them in the ass.
sis651 3 months ago in reply to socorsu +3

Having more bugs with a newer firmware is actually normal. What is abnormal is Garmin is using the consumers as testers. And the product is rushed into the market. Most of the bugs could have been solved…

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0 jsla7527 9 months ago in reply to 2529455

2529455 said:
Super interesting! Same hardware as the 7 in that case.

Seems like it. I wonder if they added something separate for voice processing capabilities that's not exposed to CIQ, or if they're just running offline voice assistant on the same CPU. Because from my testing, the assistant is reasonably good.

BTW, the benchmark actually lists it as Fenix 47mm / 51mm. I put 47mm there, because that's what I have, but with increase of the display size, I think they're basically the same watch for CIQ. 51mm just has bigger battery.

0 socorsu 9 months ago in reply to jsla7527

Venu 2 plus which introduce the "CPU" in 2021 also support Voice call

0 jsla7527 9 months ago in reply to socorsu

Voice calling probably isn't that much of an issue. It just works as your normal Bluetooth headphones. But the offline voice assistant needs to analyze the sound when you tell it something like "Set timer to five minutes", even when not connected to the phone. That seems more CPU intensive. And that's only on F8: https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=KLYra4C7BE4RYCyMgBbWp6

0 2529455 9 months ago in reply to jsla7527

jsla7527 said:
or if they're just running offline voice assistant on the same CPU

Likely the same CPU using NXPs VIT: www.nxp.com/.../voice-intelligent-technology-wake-word-and-voice-command-engines:VOICE-INTELLIGENT-TECHNOLOGY

0 socorsu 9 months ago in reply to 2529455

exactly

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0 FlowState 9 months ago in reply to jsla7527

jsla7527 said:
BTW, the benchmark actually lists it as Fenix 47mm / 51mm. I put 47mm there, because that's what I have, but with increase of the display size, I think they're basically the same watch for CIQ. 51mm just has bigger battery.

Yeah. Fenix 8 AMOLED 47mm and 51mm both have a display resolution of 454 x 454, which is probably why they've been folded into the same CIQ device - along with the fact that they're probably similar in every other way that counts, too (*). (Fenix 8 AMOLED 43mm has a resolution of 416 x 416.)

(* interesting counterpoint: in the past, a member of the CIQ team explained that the reason 2 Edges with slightly different feature sets - one supported power meters, the other did not - nonetheless shared the same CIQ device definition was bc they had the same firmware. Which is to say that just because 2 different Garmin models are assigned to the same CIQ device, doesn't necessarily mean they're alike in every way that matters.)

In contrast, Fenix 8 Solar 47mm is 260 x 260 and Fenix 8 Solar 51mm is 280 x 280, which explains why they are different devices for the purposes of CIQ.

0 jmto 9 months ago in reply to socorsu

One more for ref.
Descent MK3I 51MM | 006-b4223-00 | SW 17.29 | 454 x 454 | Connect IQ 5.0.0 | CPU 6.3/43.5 Pips.

So these seems to pretty much have all the same internals...

0 socorsu 9 months ago

Update about software and "hardware"

New info found under Enduro 3 forum

F8 amoled

Software Version: 11.60
GPS: 2.07
Wi-fi: 28.83
CIQ: 5.0.1
BMX: 17.0.9
WHR: 17.00.09
ANT/BLE/BT: 28.83
TSC: 0.19
Senor Hub: 31.11

Enduro 3

Software Version: 11.60
GPS: 2.07
Wi-fi: 28.17
CIQ: 5.0.1
BMX: 17.0.9
WHR: 17.00.09
ANT/BLE/BT: 28.17
TSC: 3.10
Senor Hub: 31.50

F7/E2

Software version : 18.14
GPS: 10.01
Wi-fi: 28.17
CIQ: 5.0.1
BMX: 17.0.9
WHR: 17.00.09
NFC : 3.4.4 // WLT : 3.2.2
TSC: 3.05 or 3.04.1
Senor Hub: 31.10

GPS
- seems to be a new one, i can't find this release anywhere else
Wi-Fi
- Enduro 3
  - version is sync with FRx55/x65, F7/E2
- Fenix 8 amoled
  - higher version ?
CIQ / BMX / WHR
- All sync
ANT/BLE/BT
- from Forerunner
TSC
- Enduro 3
  - from F7/E2 Pro
- Fenix 8 Amoled
  - seems to be a new one, i can't find this release anywhere else
Sensor Hub
- Enduro 3
  - version is higher ?
- Fenix 8 amoled
  - version is similar to with FRx55/x65, F7/E2, and others
  - we should all be sync with next release

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CIQ Benchmark v2 - apps.garmin.com/.../d3b74474-7663-42f5-9bcb-d20cd5ce96f3

Fenix 8 47mm AMOLED | 006-B4536-00 | SW 11.60 | 454x454 | Connect IQ 5.0.1 | CPU 6.4/ 45.5 Pips
Enduro 3 | 006-B4575-00 | SW 11.60 | 280x280 | ConnectIQ 5.0.1 | CPU 6.5/ 45.5 Pips
Fenix 7X | 006-B3907-00 | SW 18.13 | 280 x 280 | connect Iq 5.0.1 | CPU 6.4/ 45.5 Pips

0 anonymous16 8 months ago

NXP has a new i.MX chip RT700. Do you guys think it's on fenix 8 Pro that was leaked earlier?