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What features does the Fenix 9 need to have to make you upgrade?

Since the release of the Fenix 8 is imminent close and the related feature discussion is closed, let's start over:

Hey everyone, with the Fenix 9 takes a glimpse far, far away on the horizon, I'm curious—what would make you excited enough to upgrade? Whether it's better sensors, longer battery life, or some totally new feature we haven't seen before, what would make the next Fenix irresistible for you? Let's get a discussion going and share our wishlists for what we hope to see in the next generation!

Please also take the point in time with a good sense of humor, we're in a user forum to share thoughts and also have fun, right?

  • Maybe, after that, we could realised, that Garmin is cheating and don´t use all of systems because of battery consumption...

  • IMHO, improve the sleep tracking algorithm. 

  • I wish Garmin would come up with a better "sensor fusion" method for GNSS to use inertial tracking to filter out GNSS errors and get better accuracy at lower power draw.

    Ideally, it should be able to smother "GPS drift" when you are nearly at rest but also avoid things like "cutting corners" when you are doing switchbacks or other tight turns. Don't connect gaps in GNSS position with straight lines, instead use inertial navigation to figure out the plausible path for the given activity type.

    I think there could also be a selectable mode where you can expect to remain on course, so it could bias its assumptions to assuming you stick to the course rather than letting sensor error show you as meandering on and off course.  Solve for the most plausible solution to the inertial and GNSS error margins that keeps you on course and within your personal performance characteristics.

    I wonder whether the obstacle is technical, like the accelerometer/gyroscope aren't precise enough to figure out body motion while canceling out wrist motion, or legal like patents they can't afford to license.

  • That would be a hard one in my opinion.

    When I think of it as a tool everything that is estimated would skew the results. Yes, sure, you can do sensor fusion to enhance resolution and reduce errors, drifts and failure. But then the overall error and influenced have to be modelled really good, since the watch moves more or less in non continuous movements... And if things are going to be estimated... it's a wild guess and messes to much with reality ;)

  • If I could mix Suunto design, UX, and software stability with Garmin hardware, metrics, and some of the features, that would be a watch I'd upgrade to in a heartbeat. Also, would like to have the crown - the spinwheel - it makes zooming of the map so much more natural. 

  • I’d really like if they could go from Amoled display to MIP display to conserve battery and solar on all fenix watches.  

  • I’d really like if they could go from Amoled display to MIP display to conserve battery and solar on all fenix watches.

    What's wrong with having both options?

  • Nothing as long as the UI for MIP devices allows white backgrounds for easier readability. Instead of getting the same screens that are optimized for AMOLED low power use.

  • It doesn't have to use them all as long as accuracy is good. I don't have any problem with that. But I'll always like to see that page. I have 3 apps on my phone that can display it. :D 

  • We can already buy MIP, so why we should want all models to be MIP? People who like Amoled can buy them...