Training algorithm has become garbage!

yeah that it seems like it :( ever since August my training status is not moving the daily suggestions are quite strange. It seem like it became broken maybe because of the absence of other pieces like training readiness etc. i don't know to be honest.  

As for HRV is have the opposite situation. I stopped alcool almost 4 weeks ago to help recover my knee pains on long runs ( and it worked) so my HRV now is at the top of the baseline :) tomorrow i will probably go unbalanced because my avg. HRV  will be to High and that despite the fact that was heavily training for a marathon my during this pas 4 weeks and it should give me lower scores ;) 
I guess it will need more time to recalibrate or I just need to get back to drinking once in a while 

A mi me pasa lo mismo.

Desde agosto de 2022 mi fenix 6 indica estado "mantenimiento".

no entiendo tantos meses despues siga sin solucion

saludos

6944777 said:

I should have been recovered by now

What do you mean by "I should have recovered by now?" Having a lower HRV while you train intensively should be expected.

If you are in "unbalanced HRV status", your training is straining your body, but it doesn't mean it is bad. Research has shown that low HRV doesn't mean bad performance or poor fatigue resistance. Vice versa, high HRV is generally a good sign, except that you might just see a temporary rebound during recovery or tapering.

If you stay too long with low HRV, you will eventually get in trouble with fatigue, underpeformance and/or overuse injuries. "too long" means different time frames for different people. Too low means the same: is the person overtraining or overstressed by illness or work?

https://simplifaster.com/articles/interpreting-hrv-trends-athletes/

For recovery, follow the recovery time of the watch.

6944777 said:

The graphic shows that the baseline should have come down by now, but it refuses to change.

It will take a rolling period of 3-weeks to start impacting the baseline.

If you are not happy with the baseline, you could do a factory reset to reinitiate a 3-wk assessment, but I would recommend against it.

6944777 said:

At the same time, the watch shows that I have an anaerobic deficiency and should do sprint training tonight.

In my experience, the training program responds mostly to training focus, acute load and, maybe, recovery time. Since it is expected to take the HRV down after hard training, you can expect the HRV balance and the training balance to conflict some times

6944777 said:

This is such a schizophrenic situation that it is impossible to understand what to do next.

Aside from being "possible and expected", your situation could stem from other conditions:

- you started training seriously recently, and your acute load is increasing very fast, is significantly out of balance despite your training being "light",

- you encountered some stress unrelated to training (illness, work, change of schedule, ...)

- your training status is miscalculated because your VO2 Max model is off. This is typically due to bad physiological data on the watch (age, weight, and most commonly, max HR).

- you do a lot of strength training.  The anaerobic effect of this kind of training will not be reflected in Garmin's training metrics, but will be reflected in your HRV metrics. So take liberal "Garmin recovery times" if you do serious strength training.

Thanks for clarifying.

I didn't do strength training; instead, I did some HIIT training and some boxing (bag) to meet my anaerobic needs.

Actually, it went a lot worse. I hit rock bottom. But now, I am almost able to run 10k a week and do some cardio and discipline-specific training. But it looks like my strength training days are over for good.

I agree, the HRV is seriously messing up training status and therefore, training suggestions. What upsets me about this is that it is commonly acknowledged that women have fluctuating HRV (tending to be significantly lower towards the second half of each menstrual cycle) but Garmin just plain ignores this - despite having extensive data on women's menstrual cycle!

HRV does mess up my straining status as well. And therefore, also the daily training suggestions. Garmin simply doesn't take into account that women usually have significantly lower HRV during the second half of their menstrual cycle, despite having extensive data from years of menstrual cycle tracking with their devices. Bluntly ignoring the specifics of half of the population is definitely disappointing.

Yeah i have the similar impression. I like the HRV the are very valuable I want to have them. But it "feels" like new Training Status is broken and in my impression maybe it is because it was designed to work correctly with full metrics like training readiness etc. and on our's F6's it has only half of the input data it needs. That's of course my impression. I don't have F7 or Epix to wear simultaneously all the time for few weeks to make the comparison.