Since the latest 20.30 firmware update on my Fenix 6 Pro the respiration includes now also the respiration during workout making the daily average completely useless - please change it back to exclude the respiration rate during activities.
Since the latest 20.30 firmware update on my Fenix 6 Pro the respiration includes now also the respiration during workout making the daily average completely useless - please change it back to exclude the respiration rate during activities.
I like it this way, but maybe there should be an option to turn it off.
An option to choose would definitely makes sense - if you include different types of exercise length and intensity wise you will have no way to compare your trend. So +1 for an option to turn it off
Yeah, I'd love to see an option to turn it off, I'm sure that some people would love to see overall average including activities, but I like it the old way just to track how my body feels.
It also makes sense to exclude activity breathing to be consistent. As many other watches don't support breath tracking in activities so if you're using a few at the same time it will be totally garbage metric.
I do not think it should be added to the daily average. On my watch it is only added when using a chest strap, so even if you like it you would need to use the strap for every workout. I hardly use this metric, when I was sick my breathing stayed the same, so I have not found a use for it personally.
I'm using a chest strap for almost all my workouts, and at least for me breathing changed during the time I was ill so it's not completely useless, at least not in my case.
It also makes sense to exclude activity breathing to be consistent. As many other watches don't support breath tracking in activities so if you're using a few at the same time it will be totally garbage metric
I'm confused by your it makes sense to exclude activities and total garbage metrics comments. Wouldn't you want to know your true and correct daily average? There's a graph with a time-line that shows your rate if you only want to know what your rate is outside of any activities. If you want to exclude activities to get what you say is "how my body feels", shouldn't you then exclude the rate during sleep as you'll naturally have a lower rate when sleeping? My awake time average today is 13. Will my sleep time average of 9 produce garbage numbers for an end of the day average? Excluding activities is like watching your daily calorie intake, but excluding dessert because you don't want those dessert calories to factor in to what you want to see. I'm also opposed to an on/off feature. This is nothing more than a means to eliminate something that actually took place. I fail to see the rationale in this. Currently, the respiration tab shows awake and sleep averages. I would prefer to see the awake average replaced with an outside activity and a during activity average along side the sleep average.
I'm confused by your it makes sense to exclude activities and total garbage metrics comments. Wouldn't you want to know your true and correct daily average?
Let me try to explain, I wan to have meaningful metrics. And I don't see much benefit in knowing my combined average from rest and activities. If Garmin could provide two averages for rest and activity time then it would be fine with me. Otherwise you can have days with high intensity runs where you breathing is high and then you can have a rest day where your breathing is low, and then if you try to check from the watch your daily average it will show you that certain days are higher than the rest, in the past it meant that something is off with your body (stress, illness), now it could mean stress, illness, activity so it adds guessing.
shouldn't you then exclude the rate during sleep as you'll naturally have a lower rate when sleeping?
Of course, and they are doing just that from what I know, they have two lines there that's why if you get into 7 day view on GCM you'll see two lines Sleep Avg and Awake Avg which tell you exactly which breathing pattern you had during sleep and during the day.
And having separate breathing pattern for sleep could be fun too, e.g. it seems that one night when I had a nasty nightmare my breathing was way higher than usually, and it was right in the phase of REM identified by Garmin(I know that we shouldn't trust much to sleep phases identification).
Will my sleep time average of 9 produce garbage numbers for an end of the day average?
nope it will not as it's already separate from your daily average from what I see. As for garbage I meant following, take a look how many devices are able to track your respiratory rate during activities, if I'm not wrong there are very few... Take a look at this comparison as an example:
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/catalog/product/compareResult.ep?compareProduct=621922&compareProduct=713363&compareProduct=707538&compareProduct=702902
Only Fenix line and FR945 have in activity breathing tracking, even 745 doesn't support that and Vivoactive and Venu support breathing in Yoga and Breatworks.
So let's assume following scenario, some person love AMOLED so he got himself Venu 2, but since it doesn't have recovery, training status, doesn't support running dynamics and such he decided to buy himself FR945. And now let's imagine what this person will get in daily average number for breathing. If he tried to do breathworks his breaths per minute could be as low as 3(I have that as doing breathworks before going to sleep and it helps a lot) and now when he runs with FR945 he get 40BPM.
So combining such data together at one graph is fine with me but then it should be marked as activity, and I'd prefer to have them separate. Garmin itself marketed it as as an indication of respiratory issues.
I would prefer to see the awake average replaced with an outside activity and a during activity average along side the sleep average.
just like me, but I'd prefer to see 3 metrics instead as I like to see how I breath during sleep because after hard training it can be leveraged too.
it absolutely should include respiration from everything, including workouts, all day long. if not, then you might as well exclude the rate from sleeping as that skews the data as well. for me, my day avg is 14 or so, workout avg is 38 or so, sleeping avg is 9 or so. i think garmin (firstbeat actually) are smart enough to create a simple algorithm that calculates percentages based on time and combines them into a meaningful score. so if 14 is the rate for 15 hours, 9 is the rate for 8 hours and 38 is the rate for 1 hour, the daily respiration rate should be something like 13 and i would agree and be satisfied with that result as an accurate representation of my day