New user - maps advice

I just picked up my first Garmin watch a few days ago - Fenix 6 sapphire. Have tried to configure it,  which has taken hours, and used it yesterday when I played golf. That's ok, but not as good as my handheld Garmin golf tool.

Am planning a walk at the weekend, but having great difficulty with the maps function. Firstly,  I don't see the map contours shown on the sticky pad that covered the screen in the box.  I did download the topographic map (at least I think I did),but that hasn't made any difference. Any pointers? 

I also tried to create a route using Base Camp, but that doesn't seem to have any maps in it - is there an easy way to create a walking route? 

I did find some pre-determined walks on line with GPX files, and managed to get it on to my watch using Connect (albeit with no map detail), but don't seem to be able to give it a sensible name. 

Overall, my excitement with my new toy is starting to wear off - it's so complicated and I find the manual poor - as of they've not bothered to test the understanding of someone new,  like me! 

Any pointers on how to increase my understanding? 

  • Perhaps he bought a non European F6s?

  • One other thing to add, if you are wanting to navigate a pre-defined Course on the watch, rather than the watch taking over and routing you using it's own maps, you need to go to Menu>Activities & Apps>Hike (or whatever outdoor app)>Hike Settings>Routing>Courses>Follow Course (rather than the 'Use Map' option).

  • Perhaps he bought a non European F6s?

    Yes, it's possible.  The "..Menu>Activities & Apps>(select an outdoor GPS activity like Hike or Run)>Hike Settings>Map>Configure Maps, then scroll through the maps that are installed..." I described earlier should reveal what's going on.  If they do have a non-Europe 6S then they probably ought to send it back to where it came from and demand a replacement 6S that is the correct region.  If that's not possible, then buying the Europe TopoActive maps from Garmin is an option (comes with DEM) or use a free map (doesn't come with DEM) or pay for third party maps like talkytoaster or similar (that come with DEM for a minimal extra fee).

  • It was showing several updates required, including the TopoActive Europe 2020.20, which I installed, taking an hour and a half. Is now showing N & S America,  Europe, Middle East and Africa, and Pacific. I won't bother worth any of these. 

    BaseCamp is still loading the Topoactive map from my watch, how 2 hours in and still only 50% loaded. 

  • N & S America,  Europe, Middle East and Africa, and Pacific are golf maps.

  • This is the initial loading of the maps from the Fenix to BaseCamp, this can take 4-5 hours (as it is building a cache/index of the map tiles that make up each map). Once done it is faster next time you connect the Fenix to BaseCamp (unless the map has been updated, then it will re-initialise/index the map again)... The non-European maps are just golf maps, so of limited use, unless you like "a good walk spoilt" ;-)

    As also mentioned the Garmin TopoActive maps supplied on the European models do NOT have contours, only the North America and APAC ones do (for maps of the regions supplied on those models).

  • Oh, that's useful to know. I gave up in the end,thinking it would never load, but maybe I should leave it on overnight to see if it loads. Shame the Europe map doesn't have contours, but I guess a watch is never going to replace a map. 

    Actually I regularly spoil a good walk, two or three times a week, but don't need the overseas golf maps!

  • Garmin TopoActive maps are just OpenStreetMap data and IMO not as good as 3rd party options. I also find it astonishing that Garmin segments these maps by region and doesn’t make worldwide maps available to all their customers of the f6 pro and Marq. It’s free and open source map data so it’s just nickel and diming people who bought premium GPS watches.

    If you are in Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, or Germany check out https://openfeitsmap.nl. They have very detailed maps particularly for the BeNeLux region with 5m TOPO lines and also Germany at high resolution. They also have maps for all of Europe as well with 25m TOPO lines.


    Another good source for Europe is https://opentopomap.org.

    https://gmaptool.eu has excellent maps for North America, South America, and Africa.

    These are all free and open source.


    https://talkytoaster.me.uk has enhanced maps for the U.K., Europe and other places both free of charge and by subscription depending on the level of detail.

  • Garmin TopoActive maps are just OpenStreetMap data and IMO not as good as 3rd party options

    Yes and no.  The base data is open street maps (Talkytoaster maps are the same), but Garmin do add a popularity routing layer to their maps, that other OSM based maps won't have.  So Garmin isn't just flogging stuff that's available for free elsewhere as a premium option.  That said, the popularity routing is based upon data from millions of Garmin users uploading activities to Connect; so arguably Garmin are flogging data we give them for free back to us Wink.

  • But other OSM based maps are often more detailed (or show more data) than the supplied Garmin ones based on OSM data. They often also include contours as standard as well as showing material that the Garmin OSM based maps don't...

    Not all OSM maps are equal or even designed for the same purpose or with the same functionality...

    At the end of the day get the maps that meet your specific needs... if you just use them in city/urban areas then the Garmin supplied ones are fine, but not if you are hiking in the wilds, climbing mountains, etc. where you need things like cliffs, gates, stiles, benches, scree, rock outcrops, caves, sinkholes, etc. Then the Garmin supplied ones are just not detailed enough.