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New firstbeat sleep feature worse than before

Former Member
Former Member over 4 years ago

The new sleep measurement is really not good and a big deception.

First, it takes too much into account the do not disturb time frame recorded in the settings.

Let's say you specify the DND timeframe from 11pm to 7am

1. If during the week end you have a glass of water at 7:30am and go back to sleep until 10am, it will consider you have slept until 7:30am. So it's totally wrong.

2. If you wake up at 5am, you can be sure that at 6am it will still show "Sleeping" on the watch. Yet afterwards it will show the right wake up time at 5am.

3. The sleep score is not showed in the iPhone app. It seems there is no sync of the dev teams at Garmin...

4. It cannot record nap which is a big issue as naps are a good strategy to offset lack of sleep time

The first point is a real pain. I keep adjusting manually the wake up time in the Connect app but even doing that you have not detailed data" on your sleep on the added part.

The point 1 & 2 were working before the change to the firstbeat system. There are critical regressions.

I would really invite Garmin dev team to wear a Garmin watch on one arm and a Fitbit on the other arm. Fitbit is soooo much better on this.

  • 0 over 4 years ago

    It seems to work for some but not others.

    I work shifts.... After weeks of changing my sleep hours  I manually adjust my sleep for a few weeks.

    After the last update I deleted the tile. Body battery seems fine. Sleep worked fine before the on watch widget which for me is completely random and useless

  • 0 over 4 years ago

    The sleep tracking was quite a joke to me until the recent update. It's acceptable now at least. But I agree, compared to Fitbit, it's still embarrassing for Garmin. I'm comparing to a Vertix and Coros isn't doing that great either. Forget about naps for them too. Not too sure about suunto and polar. But I don't think Suunto will register naps either. It's not the forte of sport watches... Are other "smart"watches doing better ? 

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    0 Former Member over 4 years ago

    With regards to '2' I think that is on purpose to make sure you are not going back to sleep.

    Imagine waking at 3 for the toilet and it says you are awake?

    Same thing. Gives the watch time to realise you are actually awake and adjusts calculations accordingly.

    As for naps I would imagine only sure fire way of tackling this would be to have a manual (manuel?) option

  • 0 over 4 years ago

    I am totally agree with you. I wear  everyday on the right wirst Fitbit Ionic,for personal pourpose and on the left my Fenix 6 PS that I love so much. But about sleep, I wonder why it is not possible to get decent data. Fitbit is another story regarding sleep, ok it is not comparable with Garmin, in registering sport activities, but relating to sleep,well... I had a nap on the sofa yesterday afternoon at 3:30 P.M. and waked up at 4:40 P.M. my Fitbit registered it right away,my Fenix, nope! that's happens always regarding naps, in the afternoon, on the evening when I fall asleep watching TV, my Fitbit always registered it. And during the night, everytime I should go to the bathroom I found the awake for 2 minutes on my Fitbit, on Fenix, sometime now with Firstbeat system, before never, but I see as deep sleep, the time spent in that phase is random, compared with Fitbit. Maybe you would argue how can I know if I were fallen aslept deeply, it happens because I can feel when I sleep deeply, or I am in a REM phase or in the light phase. Why at Garmin can't get a decent solution for sleep we'll never know.