Fenix 6 Series - 8.00 Release Candidate

Well that's what I'm talking about it.

I don't have any of those strange drops or peaks.

For me works just fine. I can just report my experience.with the watch.

Again for some it works for some it doesn't. It may be the watch it may be something else. Garmin should clarify this to you

An article which is worth to read on the subject

https://trailrunnermag.com/training/why-you-should-be-skeptical-about-your-wrist-based-heart-rate.html

Punch said:

I can just report my experience.with the watch.

That is exactly what applies to me and my experiences with three different Garmin watches in a row (f3hr and f5x were good for me). We all here in the forum should share our experiences and respect others. I mean all of us. It doesn't get us all going any further when we become personal. As bad as Corona may be, I hope that this is an opportunity for people worldwide to regain a stronger sense of connectedness. We shouldn't be hostile to each other here. We have a much bigger enemy. Sorry, that was a bit offtopic, but that's my opinion. Only cohesion brings people forward.

I mean all of us.

6xProSolar is the last time I will purchase a Garmin watch until it's out for 6 months and we see if it works...

Yup.  When you put your finger to your neck in a mid-run pause and the watch is 30bpm lower, that's just normal variation between brands and people (eye roll)

DarrinC said:

When you put your finger to your neck in a mid-run pause and the watch is 30bpm lower, that's just normal variation between brands and people (eye roll)

Why the "eye roll"?  Yes, that can be completely normal.  You don't think that different sensors, size or weight of a watch, skin complexion, sweat, tattoos, watch fit, etc. can affect the oHRM from reading 30 bpm lower than your actual HR?  The oHRM can work great for some and poorly for others for many reasons.  Is it your belief that if you were to manually check your HR mid run and the watch is 30 bpm lower that the only acceptable reason would be a faulty device?

Punch said:

can be also effected by personal factors such as

Punch said:

So it's perfectly normal that for some people hr  works and for some others don't.

Punch said "can be" and "for some".  You on the other hand misquoted him as saying:

DarrinC said:

that's just normal variation between brands and people (eye roll)

If you want to dispute something someone says on the forum, at least quote them correctly and not dispute something they never said.

Punch said:

What you guys do not understand that hr reading is down to many factors and can be also effected by personal factors such as colour of the skin, structure of the wrist, body fat in the wrist, hairs etc et

Sorry Punch, I think you are not understanding the issue we are talking about. The issue is not about OHR accuracy that is ok for 99% of us like you. The issue is that the sensor is working different if you are outside activity or inside activity after start recording of if you are broadcasting HR from the HR widget. 

Please see this video and try to do a similar test.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6eb4u9yfXAzBPXGt5

1 STEP - Before to start the activity
FENIX 6: 78 - Perfect, usually spot on
830: 82

2 STEP - Starting pedaling - Watchface
FENIX 6: 80 - Low :(
830: 110

3 STEP - Pedaling - Watchface
FENIX 6: 85 - Low :(
830: 120-117

4 STEP - Pedaling - Watchface
FENIX 6: 94 - Low :(
830: 130-129

5 STEP - Pedaling opening the HR widget
FENIX 6: 73 - Very Low :( (If I reach 160 BPM the WHR usually is around 80, halfof the real one)
830: 132

6 STEP - Starting an activity (befor start nothing change)
FENIX 6: 86 ----- in some seconds go to -------> 139 so became perfect!
830: 139

7 STEP - Stopping the activity
FENIX 6: 145 Still perfect but after some minutes come back to low values
830: 144

Because you think not to have the issue is very important if you can make the same test. 

After the test please send the link here:

forums.garmin.com/.../wrong-wrist-heart-rate-without-starting-activity

If you prefer, there is a easier test you could try to do. You could try to broadcast HR from Fenix 6 to another device and see what happens.

Or you could try to reach 160 BPM without starting an activity. You could do this test without have another device and you can "take your pulse with two fingers on your wrists" but only when you will reach more than 130 BPM. Please check with the two fingers when you will be at 139, 140, 150 and 160 and give me your feedback. 

If running the result will be ok please repeat  the test with a spinning bike ore a bike indoor trainer, please. 

This will help us a lot. 

You don't think that different sensors, size or weight of a watch, skin complexion, sweat, tattoos, watch fit, etc. can affect the oHRM from reading 30 bpm lower than your actual HR?

Yes, sure. But if the same person with the same watch have different HR datas outside activity or starting an activity how can the skin or the watch can be the issue? The skin and the watch (and all the other parameters) are the same.

Did you see this video? 

forums.garmin.com/.../1032910

Simone.01 said:

issue is that the sensor is working different if you are outside activity

Simone.01 said:

But if the same person with the same watch have different HR datas outside activity

Your focus on this "outside of an activity" is causing you miss what we're talking about.  Nowhere did Punch nor DarrinC say anything about "outside an activity".  In fact, Punch said:

Punch said:

It doesn't matter if you are on or off an activity.

Simone.01 said:

I think you are not understanding the issue we are talking about.

If you read the threads again, it's you who doesn't understand what's being discussed.  Don't assume everything said is about being outside an activity especially when someone clearly states that's not what they're talking about.