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What would it take for Indoor Rowing to give VO2max? (Concept2, ErgIQ, Firstbeat?)

Former Member
Former Member over 6 years ago
So, obviously right now Indoor Rowing doesn't give a VO2max, nor does it link to any rowers for data support. But for those of us who already have a Concept2 rower in their garage, and would like to see Firstbeat data from the activity....

What would it take (asking Garmin in particular here) to get the Indoor Rowing activity to cough up VO2max updates?

I'm assuming...
  • HRM or R-R compatible chest strap
  • FE-C support from the Indoor Rowing activity
  • Indoor Rowing would need to pull stroke, power, distance data from the ANT frame from the rower
  • Activity would need to write out whatever data Firstbeat is using (FB already supports rowing in their analytics, does Garmin's license cover rowing ergometers?)
  • Might need a separate VO2max metric in F5, GCM? Currently shows a split of general and cycling VO2max, would this need to be a third?
Garmin already supports behavior like this for the foot pod analytics and sensor precedence, so aside from developer time what are we missing to add this in?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Former Member
    Also, where did you find that Garmin requires a speed data-field for biking w/ V02 Max?

    Please send me a private message.


    About the speed sensor issue, I found that at least for my Fenix, it's mandatory to have one. The ride session will not start without a speed sensor, not else if I fire up an FE-C profile that, of course, contains speed, power and cadence data.

    Paolo

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to AllanOlesen67

    The PM3 (sold 20 years ago) doesnt native.y support ANT+. You can upgrade to a PM5. As i recall, C2 used to sell a external adapter for newer HRMs. Not sure what tech the adapt supported, or if they still sell it. 

  • Former Member
    +1 Former Member over 5 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hand shown. I’m here because Im looking for this. All the pieces are there - Garmin just has to do the work to connect the PM5 data (sent via ANT+) into the VO2Max calculations. 

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 5 years ago

    Time to resurrect this thread! : )

     and  it's great to see you guys still active on the boards - has anybody heard from Garmin about the possibilities here to get this working?

    Garmin, name your price to get this onto Indoor Rowing and let's see if the community will kickstarter it?

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi everybody, 

    Our competitive master rowing team would - all garmin users - would love this. With or without chestbelts. Any news on this since the conversation started 2+ years ago? - so curious!

  • 0 over 4 years ago

    I am so curious if this has meanwhile been resolved? Would be awesome! I love the training status of the Garmin but am required to run to get an update, while I typically row.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to KatRow

    It's not solved, but Garmin has made a major step forward by allowing C2 rowers to pair as power meters in the latest Fenix 6 firmware.

    I highly doubt that it will trickle down to the Fenix 5 Plus or other legacy devices though.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to SAHO

    Oh - that works for me - I have a Garmin Fenix 6S. Do you know how this works and how I can make this work?

    And - is there any hope for the VO2 Max connection - that is the cool thing?

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to SAHO

    How is Garmin’s history of providing more value for older models? Hope that this happens (bought my 5x plus three months ago)

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to kvskaugvoll

    Garmin is pretty good at adding features to older watches. However, you’ve bought a watch that has probably had as many new features added that are going to be added.  It is a mature product that has already been superseded by the F6. So, while the watch might be new to you, it is ‘old’ in the scheme of things.