inreach mini 3?

Thee is no competition re ruggedness presently, in comparisons btx services apple falls short in key areas but excellent in others, esp fall detection.

But if garmin isn't already all over this apple, android and starlink will wipe out most of their market, inreach aside other software sports metrics apps and other cheaper smartwatch solutions are already on their heels if not better in some areas.

it really needs to ditch the snooty marq/yachting/elite sports type demographic for 'premium' lines and pricing and just sell and make the tech, which is impressive, sleeker, less confusing and more accessible. As a similar example I didnt buy a fenix 8 because it looks nice, but not having air integration for diving because its limited to descent line means I can never buy a transmitter, odd thinking imo

True, several brands offering sports and adventure smartwatches these days but Garmin still leads the way in the outdoor world. If you look at the ultra-running scene, for example, they surveyed what brands were used at some big events: I think Garmin was the leading brand with around 80% of responders using a Garmin!

Going back to Inreach: I actually think Garmin should jump the gun, partner with a phone manufacturer, and market a flagship and a mid-range smartphone with integrated Inreach technology. It would be an opportunity to sell their technology and increase their sales.       

Agreed re integration with smartphones, I've said this about their other offerings like sports metrics on apple and android, they could sell core functionality and pay for specific sports, its not like everyone does every single sport all the time, likewise with maps, they cant compete with those platforms re reach but their tech is fantastic, what it does in one watch is amazing, the reason it matters is because I'd hate to see garmin fall to the likes of apple, or Samsung, they've created something quite remarkable that deserves to succeed

I will be certainly jumping when something small, with basic navigational functionality, possibly having some of the messenger features will exist, but operated on its own and not by stupid smartphone again

The messenger app is a mess, and it’s been that way for quite some time. As are most of their apps. Garmin never finishes fixing things or products, eventually they just give up on them, eg: the 67i. Then bring out another shinny new model full of bugs. I’d be cautious about future products from Garmin, their products never work properly out of the box and take forever to get bugs worked out and sometimes never do!

It does have messenger features but its not easy without app, I think messenger pro with more responsive touch screen that also has mapping is where this needs to go to be more useful and add redundancy, there are too many options presently quite confusing

Sending pics and voice messages is only possible with using the Messenger app. The mini 2 use is possible without using Explore or Messenger app. So if a mini 3 would get M+ features (pics/voice messages), the user will be forced to use the Messenger app, if one wants to use these features. I am not sure, if it would be possible (if an iR device would get camera /speaker/mic) to send pics and vm directly via device or if, due to technical limitations the way via messenger app is necessary. Even the new Montana 750i can’t send pics (it has a built- in camera) on its own…

I'm not suggesting it has that kind of stand alone ability but should be able to deliver messenger pro function, I think it should also have maps and a touch screen for message texting, makes it much more useful given size