Note to CIQ team / Garmin: in my previous comment, I pasted a URL which was shortened by the forum but *not* linkified, resulting in a useless mangled plain text URL. I had to post another comment (this one) where I manually linkified the URL using CTRL-K.
Normally I would delete the broken comment, but I guess I'll just leave it here as a reminder of how we're all constantly at war with the forum platform.
To be clear, as we all know, there are no such things as Connect IQ widgets in CIQ >= 4. Ofc all the end users think widgets exist, including all the big sports tech bloggers, but we know better. Anything built as a widget in the manifest file is changed into a device app for CIQ >= 4 devices. For those devices, if a device app has a glance view, it will also appear in the glance list. Yeah, usually it doesn't matter, but sometimes it does. Like those old widgets which were ported to new devices but the dev never added a glance view (because they depended on the default glance view for CIQ 3 devices, which doesn't exist in CIQ 4) - users complain they can't use those "widgets" as "widgets" any more (meaning the apps can't be launched from the glance list while an activity is running).
And it also makes a difference because we have seen bugs related to the fact that CIQ widgets don't exist, just CIQ device apps with glances: like where a CIQ device app launched from a glance would turn off GPS, because it was being treated like an "app" instead of a "widget".
Anyway, I have a Forerunner 955 with firmware version 22.24. As far I know, FR955, FR965 and Fenix 7 all seem to have a common code base (similar features and similar bugs).
I changed my watch's display settings as follows, to test your scenario:
- During Activity: Off
- General Use: On
Then I tested a bunch of native and CIQ apps/activities.
The only thing I did not test was launching a CIQ app that records an activity from the glance list (since I don't know of any such app that supports a glance). I imagine that if an app which records an activity were launched from a glance, it would:
- be unable to record an activity
- act like an "app", not an "activity", meaning the Display > During Activity setting would not take effect, but the Display > General Use setting would take effect
Here's how I think it works based on the above tests:
- native activities (which record an activity FIT file) are considered "activities" for the purpose of the Display setting, so Display > During Activity applies
- native apps (which do not record an activity FIT file) are not considered "activities", so Display > General Use applies
- CIQ apps which record an activity (probably based on the ActivityRecording permission) are considered "activities", so Display > During Activity applies
- CIQ apps which do not record an activity are not considered activities, so Display > General Use applies
TL;DR anything native or CIQ that records an activity FIT is an "activity" for the purpose of the Display setting. Everything else is not an "activity".
If it's not working for Fenix 7 or FR965 maybe it's a difference between models, or an issue with older firmware.
One user has informed me about it (FR965). My f7 20.22 also.
But if your 965 works I've checked settings, And the problem is the gesture during activitiy, I have OFF and it means widget are treated as activity. The same is with the watch faces during activitiy...
I reported this bug years ago. And this the main reason people don't report bugs... Nobody fixes it and was have to waste our time for reporting, looking for bugs in our code....
