Application: Elliptical

How To, Comments and Bugs Thread for Elliptical Application

Elliptical App Store Link

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How to Use (Please Read):
1.) Watch must be worn on your wrist!
2.) Watch hand MUST be on the MOVING Elliptical Arm.
-- i.e. your hand and watch must move with the elliptical or the app will not work.
3.) Hold the elliptical arm with your watch hand 'loosely'. This allows your watch to have more sudden movement.
For example, when you pull the elliptical arm, allow your watch hand to pull away from the handle (1/2 inch or 1 cm) and when you push the elliptical arm, your hand will quickly push against the elliptical handle. This sudden movement is needed for the watch to interpret a revolution.
4.) Adjust distance and speed.
--Configure in watch, use menu button, while in activity. (VAHR long press screen)
--Configure in connect app or Garmin express https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?332843-How-to-App-Settings
-The default "Stride Length" is for a Sole E20.
-Every elliptical brand/model reports distance differently, so configuration is necessary.
-The default will provide distance and speed for other brand but values will differ.
-The easiest way to adjust is to A.) workout for ten minutes, B.) the adjust Stride Length until the watch distance matches the elliptical value.
5.) Chest HRM (3, red or blue) will give improved results.
6.) Bike Cadence Sensor with HRM gives the best results.

Requirements:
- IQ 1.3 or higher
- Activity Tracking Steps: ON
-Optional: Chest HRM and Bike Cadence Sensor (best accuracy)

Known Deficiencies:
-(Garmin Bug) 'Main' Distance field and Garmin's Main Speed Graph are not reporting in connect.garmin.com or connect app.
--I cannot change this, it a Garmin thing, however values may show in third party site. i.e. strava, etc.
-Workaround: Both of Distance and Speed are shown as an IQ data field or as an IQ graph.

Displayed connect data
--Speed as mph/km/h or Steps per Minute
--RPM
--Distance
--Momentary Energy Expenditure graph (https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-products/features/#4)

Displayed watch data
-Speed, Distance, RPM, Calories, Heart Rate, Average Heart Rate, Elapsed Timer, Time of Day
-Heart Rate is completely configurable and color coded.
-Configure Heart rate zones in Garmin Connect or Garmin Express using the generic
-Battery meter uses the entire screen for reliability and acts as a divide to help focus one the upper fields.
-All Displays in ether statute or metric
-Fields are auto-adjust for all data ranges for maximum readability through out your entire activity.
-Second page of data, 11 different fields to choose in configuration.
--Speed, Distance, Elapse Timer, Calories. Energy Expenditure, heart rate (color), avg heart rate (color), RPM, Avg RPM and temperature.

Start Display Abbreviations
cad = cadence ready. (displays last value)
b = connected to phone with connect app running
hr= Heart Rate monitor sensor detected. (displays last value)
temp= temperature sensor detected. (displays last value)

In Development: Ant+ Speed Sensor input, distance reporting as meters
Current Release:
v1.2.1 Better and more accurate cadence with watch only configuration.
v1.2.0 may contain cadence display issues with watch only configuration
v1.2 Corrected: Cadence from watch only, Semi-round watches HR display now working,
-Added: (experimental) Ant+ Speed Sensor and can be view on second page.

connect app
data average rpm is ok
graphs are not labeled and data looks ok.
There is a distance graph, needs removed.:rolleyes:

connect.garmin.com
6 APRIL 2017 https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1661740413
all data and values 98% accuracy with distance.

Reporting Errors and Ideas
In order to correct the problem please send/post the following:
-error description
-give watch model, firmware & iq version
-configuration info
-if "!", please send the error log(s). Connect your watch to a PC and it is It's located at {watch}\garmin\apps\logs. Copy file and attach to post or email me the info and log.

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Giorgio_Borgogni over 8 years ago

works well

works well for me, i try on fenix 3 hr, it would be useful to set the stride length to have the correct distance. thank you
Giorgio

Giorgio_Borgogni over 8 years ago

distance

with the upgrade. I did notice that once the saved task, both on my fenix 3 hr and on Garmin connect distance turns out to be 0.0 km

duduffe over 8 years ago

Great

Hi,
Thanks for the application ! It works well for me.
Just some suggestions :
- on my 920xt to make the selection "stop activity" and "save activity" we have to select the text in black. I think it would be better if the option we want to choose was highlighted in white rather than nkt highlighted.
- you may add another screen with less data fields. For me, HR, cal and speed are great. RPM is generally displayed on machine screens, as well as elepsed time.

Thanks again

Bezi72 over 8 years ago

It is look good but it is possible to add to app data from external speed sensor, data from hrm run2 and add to set up of application possibility to swith of data from temperature sensor or elevation sensor. THOSE data are constant. Thank you Petr

Artivis over 8 years ago

Great work!

Great app, thank you very much!
Currently I started using it on Chronos with the new beta fw 5.11 (based on the Fenix 5 fw). It works ok except for the known bugs (main distance not recorded).

Fingers crossed for further development!!

Nighthawk700 over 8 years ago

Nice!

I just used the app for the first time last night. I'm impressed with the results. A lot more detail than I get than when I use "Other" on my FR235.

What is the Momentary Energy Expenditure?

I assume the "Speed" is just another way of displaying the cadence? The graphs are identical. As someone else pointed out, the elevation doesn't change, so I'm not sure why it's there.

Are people actually able to look at the display one the watch while using the elliptical? My hands are moving so much that I never really got a good look at it. I'd have to take my hand off to do so, and from your description of the best way to hold on to get the best reading, it sounds like taking your hands off would ruin the reading.

I do appreciate the app though! Besides not having to go in to change the workout to Elliptical, it's nice to see more data recorded. I'll try to keep an eye out to be able to post any bugs I see or any more comments I can make that might help with your efforts.

F3b Software (Brian) over 8 years ago

I just used the app for the first time last night. I'm impressed with the results. A lot more detail than I get than when I use "Other" on my FR235.

What is the Momentary Energy Expenditure?

I assume the "Speed" is just another way of displaying the cadence? The graphs are identical. As someone else pointed out, the elevation doesn't change, so I'm not sure why it's there.

Are people actually able to look at the display one the watch while using the elliptical? My hands are moving so much that I never really got a good look at it. I'd have to take my hand off to do so, and from your description of the best way to hold on to get the best reading, it sounds like taking your hands off would ruin the reading.

I do appreciate the app though! Besides not having to go in to change the workout to Elliptical, it's nice to see more data recorded. I'll try to keep an eye out to be able to post any bugs I see or any more comments I can make that might help with your efforts.

Thanks!
That is a FirstBeat measurement available to the SDK and gives your calorie burn at a particular moment (in cal/hr).

The next release will trim off two of the graphs which are duplicates and add the BIKE_CADENCE sensor. The attached Cadence Sensor will allow the RPMs to be generated by the elliptical. Then you would be able to look at your watch mid workout with out causing the app to have a dropout. the App will still work without the BIKE_CADENCE sensor, too.

Nighthawk700 over 8 years ago

Something weird just happened. I'm not sure if it's related to this app or something different.

On my Connect dashboard, after I do a run, in the activities section it shows some details about the run and a map. When I do the Elliptical (either first as an "Other" then when using your app) it shows the heart rate chart instead of a map, which makes sense, since the GPS is off. But now I just finished a run, and the activities section is showing my heart rate for the run, not a map. When I go to the full screen view the map is there. This started after I began using your Elliptical app. I don't know if there's a correlation or not, but wanted to see if you or anyone else experience something similar and may know how to correct it.

Thanks.

Nighthawk700 over 8 years ago

About my post above, it looks like it's happening to everyone: https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?371592-Activities-Widget-Issue-on-Dashboard So the timing was just bad for me, making me wonder if it was Eliptical that caused it. Sorry to cast any doubt.

Nighthawk700 over 8 years ago

One thing I noticed. Before, when I did ellipticals as an "Other" workout, then changed it to Elliptical, tapiriik.com would sync the workout to Strava and Runkeeper. But now that I'm using the Elliptical app, the workouts are not being transferred. Not a high priority item, just curious if you have any ideas of what could be causing this to act differently. In the meanwhile, the app is definitely helping to keep me on the elliptical, which in turn is helping me to shed off a bit of weight before my half next month. Thanks again.