Runner Window Datafield thread

Thought I'd start a thread on my favorite complex Datafield for my FR235 in case others haven't seen it yet and also because I have one small suggestion ;-)

FR230/235/630 version : https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/ae604215-8612-4c25-a50a-13786634f9a3
F3 version : https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/f91f089d-8b0a-400d-ae0f-758c88fc771a

First let me say why it's my favorite complex DF :
- Shows all the info I need outside of laps (that's my second DF) : Full timer H:MM:SS, Distance, Instant Pace, HR, Average Pace, Cadence
- A display that "catches" the eye, useful when taking a quick peek for HR, Pace and Time

The only problem is the tiny "Time Of Day" display so I've had to activate the Clock page and toggle to it when needed. Looking at the F3 version it seems it would be less of a problem thanks to the extra space at the top. Don't have any suggestion unfortunately on a better spot for the TOD...

darkthread over 9 years ago

Thank Webvan for starting this thread.

I am the author of Runner Window. After finishing every function I need and making Runner Window run stably, I went back to my daily job soon and became a *PURE* user of my own data field. :P I don't come here often. You can find me via my facebook page, https://www.facebook.com/darkthread.net , and send me a message, the response will be faster. Since Runner Window's thread is started, you can post your suggestions and feedback here, too.

Back to TOD issue, I totally agree with Webvan, the TOD font is too small but there is no room for bigger TOD on FR23x/630, so we have nothing to do on this, ha. An idea is to make the TOD inverse background color, will it help?

PS: I am not a native English speaker, so please ignore my grammar mistakes, misspelling and weird syntax. :P

webvan over 9 years ago

Thanks for joining the thread !

Not sure inverse would help, maybe putting it on two lines (Hours above, Minutes below) by moving GPS somewhere else (instead of the battery bar since we have the battery percentage which is quite legible) maybe even removing it since Garmin offers GPS bars before you start ?

Thanks again !

darkthread over 9 years ago

Thanks for joining the thread !

Not sure inverse would help, maybe putting it on two lines (Hours above, Minutes below) by moving GPS somewhere else (instead of the battery bar since we have the battery percentage which is quite legible) maybe even removing it since Garmin offers GPS bars before you start ?

Thanks again !

Yeah, according to my experience, GPS bar is rarely used because you will notice GPS signal is lost by out of current pace. I will try some different layout these days. Thanks for suggestion.

darkthread over 9 years ago

Runner Window FR 1.6.2 Preview is coming.

* Remove padding zero of timer hour
* Larger font for TOD
* A little layout adjustment

Anybody want to give it a try?

webvan over 9 years ago

Thanks for the new version, installed it on my FR235 and will give it a try while running tomorrow. TOD does look a lot BIGGER ;-)

webvan over 9 years ago

Finally got to try it yesterday and it worked great with the TOD now being perfectly legible, well done!

I'm not a big fan of the colored pace as the red can be hard to read an it's a bit confusing when you've been running intervals, could the "PACE" text be colored instead like for HR ?

Not sure what would be involved but do you think this Datafield could be adapted to laps for interval training? There is no complex lap DF as far as I can tell so I have to make do with Garmin's 4 DF limit.

The fields to be modified would be :
- Timer at the top : Lap Time
- Average Pace : Lap Pace
- Distance : Lap Distance

It would be nice to have LAP HR too, maybe instead of TOD ?

Thanks again!

darkthread over 9 years ago

Finally got to try it yesterday and it worked great with the TOD now being perfectly legible, well done!

I'm not a big fan of the colored pace as the red can be hard to read an it's a bit confusing when you've been running intervals, could the "PACE" text be colored instead like for HR ?

Not sure what would be involved but do you think this Datafield could be adapted to laps for interval training? There is no complex lap DF as far as I can tell so I have to make do with Garmin's 4 DF limit.

The fields to be modified would be :
- Timer at the top : Lap Time
- Average Pace : Lap Pace
- Distance : Lap Distance

It would be nice to have LAP HR too, maybe instead of TOD ?

Thanks again!

Accroding to my understanding, 3rd party datafield can't get any information about "Lap" from current programming interface and there is no custom datafield giving lap data. (If I am wrong, please correct me.) I don't think it's possible to add lap info to complex even simple custom datafield.

About the colored pace, I will consider your suggestion and give the "colored text but not colored number version" a try. :P

darkthread over 9 years ago

About the colored pace, I will consider your suggestion and give the "colored text but not colored number version" a try. :P

Colored header edition is coming.

Here are the preview program files: (for fenix 3 & FR235)

webvan over 9 years ago

That was fast thanks! You may want to rename the downloads though as I tried the wrong one first ;-) Will give it a try this morning.

That's too bad about laps, but that would explain why there are no complex DF that use them. Hopefully Garmin will add access later!

webvan over 9 years ago

Gave it a try this morning, the pace coloring is less "distracting" but for some reason the pace field seems smaller than before, which it isn't! I think the coloring gave that impression and made it stand out versus the other fields and especially Average Pace...

Could we give it a try with the green font color maybe? Thanks!