Smart Bike Lights (Data Field) / Bike Lights Control (Widget)

maca88 said:

Can you clear the configuration and tell me if you see the same numbers for both lights.

If I clear configurator, I see the same picture for AT1600.
BUT for FlareRT I See: 4,5,6,7. Hmm,, Why they changed? (but this is I guess is Varia 515
Yes, they are Varia 515 - I can see when I press buttons.

I have two SmartBikeLights pages:
1 - AT1600 & FlareRT
2 - Varia 515

What I'm doing wrong here?

maca88 said:

I did not know that you can customize also the non-custom modes.

Correct, in Magene application, you have 10 Presets - which you can modify (sort/move, edit, delete, create new).
And when you press button on the Light - it will cycle throw these modes.
ID: 51-60 <- 10 Custom mode.
ID: 1-7, & 61 <- Hardcoded modes

maca88 said:

My assumption is that most users will not modify much the factory settings, so having the configuration to be setup for factory settings make sense to me

Yeah, just it will be hard to understand new user which preset is for example: "Low" - correspond to which Preset on Magene Application.
Maybe, it could be "Mode"=Preset N, and "Button"=Low - which you can change (if you change configuration on Magene app)

maca88 said:

Hmm, you are right on this one. I re-added the Garmin modes to the list

It would be good, to have these at least in the list of available buttons (when you add custom button), no need I guess to have these by default. But, just in case if you would like to have default hardcoded mode - you have possibility.

maca88 said:

The S/N (serial number) should be unique per light, so it is quite odd that Magene decided to use the same S/N for multiple lights.

The interesting part is that on Magene Application S/N are different for each light (I can see them on the app).
I send to Magene support this issue, but I never got response.
But Garmin report it with the same S/N (which is totally incorrect for both lights), I guess they send to Ant+ some hardcoded S/N which is always the same and totally incorrect 

I hope one day they will fix that bug

Thank you 

I tried setting again.

but, I can't test it.

Networking is not working.

Data Field is only "no network".

I'm confused because I don't know what the problem is.

SimSim said:

Correct, in Magene application, you have 10 Presets - which you can modify (sort/move, edit, delete, create new).
And when you press button on the Light - it will cycle throw these modes.
ID: 51-60 <- 10 Custom mode.
ID: 1-7, & 61 <- Hardcoded modes

Well, this is not 100% accurate.

AT1200/AT1600 Standard Preset Modes (Low / Medium, etc.) cannot be edited or customized.
They can be deleted, though. The AT1200/AT1600 has space for 10 modes in total, so you can delete Standard Presets to make room for additional custom presets.

You can always restore the Standard Presets (which are non-editable) at any time see my screenshots below.

Pics attached.

Screenshot

Screenshot 2

That being said - Maca, please keep the names as the factory settings.

Cheers

Kamil said:

AT1200/AT1600 Standard Preset Modes (Low / Medium, etc.) cannot be edited or customized.

This is not 100% accurate 
You can sort predefined presets, and you can delete them, right?
I can make Preset 1 - Breathing, and Preset 10 - Low, and Preset 2 - my Custom mode. etc.

What ever you name it - You can sort them, delete them, and create your own, correct.

AT1200/AT1600 - have 10 Preset Modes - these button naming only match if you do not touch Modes (will not move, delete, or create your own).

So, names only valid if it will be static! - and they are not - whole point of Magene app - so you can customise modes like you want.
For example - for me they do not make any sense - because they are incorrect, and it will be incorrect for anyone who will change modes.

We need to keep generic names for Mode, for Button you can add default value :

"Mode"=Preset 1
"Button"=Low

Button name you can change, but from the list of modes I need to find easy which Preset Mode match Magene App Preset number.

I bought new Ravemen FR300 Ant+, but don't know how to add it to my settings together with garmin varia 510 on my Garmin Edge 850. I have already configured Smart Bike Lights via configurator to correctly set my taillight. I want to extend configuration with data for headlight. I downloaded BIke Light Control widget and it shows me only 2, 4, 6, 7 and 63, but the light has 6 modes. Does anybody knows how to configure together? I prefer fast blinking, resp. stroboscope mode on headlight. Thanks 

Kamil said:

Most users won’t change the Standard Preset Modes anyway.

Well, this where you wrong - or you are going to run statistics and check how many of users will change modes, good luck  
From UI and Application architecture perspective this is totally wrong - this is the same like to say: ohh let's not handle this error - it will never happen, because nobody press this configuration  

You should expect it will be changed - because it's possible, it's so simple.
I'm not sure why we argue on obvious things?

Kamil said:

So, the numbers in the Onelap Fit App never change — they’re fixed IDs.

Are we on the same page?
ANT+ ID's are fixed to POSITION of the PRESET - not to the names.
Names are just default state from the factory - it's like your new mobile phone have default set of applications sorted on your home screen - you expect that nobody will change them also?

Kamil said:

That being said, I agree with the proposal to change the Mode name in the Light Configurator, but please don’t change the Button Name.

Yes, we can agree on this .

Mode = Preset 1 <- Hardcoded
Button = Low <- Default Text, which you can optionally change on configurator when you change Modes on Magene app

“Are we on the same page?

ANT+ IDs are fixed to the position of the preset — not to the names.”

I literally said the same thing — that ANT+ IDs are fixed to the mode number in the Onelap Fit App (the number shown before the mode name), which is basically what you’re saying. So I’m not sure what your point was there.

I think you might have misunderstood my perspective, but that’s fine. Let me clarify:

In Onelap Fit App There are two ways to add a mode:

1. Add Preset Mode

2. Add Custom Mode

Add Preset Mode – These are the factory modes that come preinstalled with the headlight.

They cannot be edited — you can’t change their name, power, or interval.

They’re predefined, out-of-the-box modes.

The only things you can do are:

• Sort them (which changes their mode number and ANT+ ID)
• Delete them to make room for custom presets.

Add Custom Mode – These are your own custom modes.

Here you can adjust everything — power, name, intervals, etc.

You can even recreate your own Low / Medium / High modes with full configurability, unlike the fixed Preset Modes.

So why is there even an option to add Standard Preset Modes?

I asked Magene about that — besides the fact that these modes are listed in every spec sheet, manual, and on the packaging, they also serve as a backup.

If something goes wrong, or you delete your modes by mistake, or you just want to start fresh — you can simply re-add them one by one, and your setup will be as good as new.