watch app - Time and Tempe

Have been using app and it's great except for one thing. Yesterday I had turned off the Move alert in my FR235's settings. However, in your app the move line still appeared after the normal non-moving time. It would be better if the app followed the user's setting and not display the line.

And a minor feature request. Is it possible to have seconds show as well for the time?

Dave M

Actually, move alerts=off just turns of the vibrations/message for move/move cleared. The move bar still grows however, with Time and Tempe, watchfaces, etc.

From Connect IQ, things don't even have access to the "move alerts=off" setting to turn off the move bar.

Actually, move alerts=off just turns of the vibrations/message for move/move cleared. The move bar still grows however, with Time and Tempe, watchfaces, etc.

From Connect IQ, things don't even have access to the "move alerts=off" setting to turn off the move bar.

Ok, thanks for the info. It's just a minor thing anyway.

Any chance we'll see this for the Fenix 3 HR? :)

Bret

Thanks for this, it's a great little app and just what I was looking for!

Couldn't work out what the orange line was until I came to this thread - I have the Move Alert turned off on my FR235, as it was too annoying (when I didn't obey it...), but I actually kind of liked the move bar, so good to see it here.

The shortcomings of the Tempe (that I didn't know about before buying), such as low transmission rate and the fact that only integer values seem to get recorded/displayed on GC, are annoying, but hey.

One question: why are the 24 hour max/min values only store from when the app is running? I thought that the Tempe transmits these values along with current temperature, so shouldn't this data be available regardless of whether the Tempe is connected and the app running?

One question: why are the 24 hour max/min values only store from when the app is running? I thought that the Tempe transmits these values along with current temperature, so shouldn't this data be available regardless of whether the Tempe is connected and the app running?

The Tempe does provide 24hour and 24min, but that's not available through CIQ without doing an ANT+ interface, and I decided to just use the standard CIQ access to the Tempe. Here, the max and min are just for the current day (they reset at midnight), where 24max and 24min will include data from the previous day.

I'm testing something like Time and Tempe for devices that have SensorHistory.getTemperatureHistory(), that uses the internal Temp sensor (not the Tempe), to handle daily high and lows without any misses, as long as the watchface is run at least ones every 4 hours.

Unwelcome toast messages

When I start this app, I get connection toast messages at the start, such as Wrist Heart Rate Ready, tempe Connected, Foot pod Connected (if it's nearby) - obviously it needs the tempe, but why does it connect to the other sensors? (possibly just answered my own q for the heart rate, I just noticed the app rotates the step count with HR data, didn't notice it do this before)

In addition, whilst the app is running, I get multiple Transfer Complete messages when the watch syncs with my phone. Is it possible to prevent those? They don't appear, e.g. in the native Run app whilst the timer is running. (As others have noted, the damned Transfer Complete toast every time you go into the apps menu from the watch face is bloody annoying, wish there was a way to turn it off completely)

What you're seeing are FW things and not T+T. T+T only enables the Tempe. The Transfer complete message is also the FW. I first saw this on a 230 a few months back - it also happens outside of connect IQ. The firmware "forgets" that it displayed the toast for some reason and does it again.

I'm guessing you're on a 235 or 735. The WHR isn't enabled inT+T - I use getHeartRateHistory() in the same way as watchfaces to show the last 24/7 reading. In fact, T+T shares code for the hr, steps, etc with my watchfaces. Same with the display of icons and the move bar.

I guess I sort of realised that about the FW being the source of the messages, but wondered it there was any way to control it, given that I am seeing the Transfer Complete messages whilst the T+T app is running, but don't see these when using the normal/native Run app (I also think they are genuine transfer complete messages, i.e. the watch has synced with the phone, it's not just a fake repeat toast). The only place I regularly see these outside of CIQ is when entering the watch menu from the watch face when a sync has occurred in the mean time.

And, yes, I'm using a 235.

When this first came up (the "Transfer complete" message), there were threads about in the the 230/235 forum. You probably know about the "low power mode" used by CIQ watchfaces. The FW has a "LPM" and "HPM" itself. When a watchface is displayed it's always in the FW's LPM on these devices., and will switch in and out of CIQ's low-power mode (it's a bit confusing... :) ). When you go to an app, the FW goes into it's HPM. On the 23x devices, they only display the "Transfer complete" toast when in the FW's HPM and last I checked, do it a whole bunch! On other devices, the "transfer complete" message occurs when there is a transfer, and the LPM/HPM bit isn't involved.

So at least for a while, if you switched back and forth between the watchface and something like "run", you'd get the toast each time, and it wasn't a new transfer. I've seen the extra "transfer complete" toasts when running apps, and it seems to be when BT with the phone is lost and re-established (no new transfer, BTW). If I start up T+T, leave my phone inside, walk two houses down and then return, I get the toast, and per the phone, a sync didn't occur, for example.

No way to turn this off, and not unique to T+T...
(LPM and HPM is the way that the FW's mode is often noted vs "Low Power Mode" which is how the CIQ part is noted - this lead to some confusion when CIQ first came out when CIQ folks talked "seconds" on watchfaces and low power mode, and people that knew the watches would say "watchfaces always run in LPM!") :)