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[OT] So...the Forum about the Forum is gone

flowstate

Wanted to post about a new problem I noticed a few weeks ago and discovered the Forum about the Forum is gone.

Guess that means there's zero interest from Garmin in documenting and addressing forum issues.

EDIT: it looks like the threads from the Forum about the Forum have been moved to "Connect IQ App Development Discussion", but since there's so few of them, it's hard to tell that anyone of them exist, except by searching (and you'd have to know what you were looking for in the first place).

e.g.

Original thread:

[https://www.google.com/search?q=Since+last+forum+maintenance%252Fupdate+-+unable+to+tag%252Fmention+other+forum+users]

[https://forums.garmin.com/developer/connect-iq/f/forum-about-the-forum/425921/since-last-forum-maintenance-update---unable-to-tag-mention-other-forum-users/1991174]

The above thread URL redirects to this:

[https://forums.garmin.com/developer/connect-iq/f/discussion/425921/since-last-forum-maintenance-update---unable-to-tag-mention-other-forum-users/1991174]

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For the record, the new problem is that when you edit an existing post, selecting text using the keyboard (e.g. CTRL-Left Arrow and CTRL-Right Arrow) is extremely slow, to the point of being unusable. I see this on both Windows desktop (i9-9900k) and a MacBook Pro (2021).

When I try to select one character (e.g. CTRL-Left Arrow) or one word at a time (CTRL-SHIFT-Left Arrow), these shortcuts appear to be extremely laggy. I mean that either:

- nothing appears to happen unless you hold down a shortcut for a few seconds and wait

- something happens when you initially use a shortcut, but subsequent uses (or holding down the initial shortcut) appear to do nothing, unless you wait several seconds

In other words, when editing a comment, I can select one character with CTRL-Left Arrow, but if I try to select more than that (either by pressing the shortcut repeatedly or holding it down and waiting), it's extremely laggy to the point of appearing not to work at all.

I assume that there's some super-inefficient javascript processing that's happening when you select text, and that it's not debounced at all.

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  • in reply to flowstate

    Just really short add-on. When I was child we were watching films created even 50 years before my birth. My children wanted to watch only those which were either contemporary or just a bit older than themselves. I have a fear that the younger and younger kids are not even curious about the history of the society at all, so eg. what happened when they were born or so.

    And maybe all of these are not mainly due to the contents, but the format, how a film looks like, how fast it is, what resolution it has etc.

  • in reply to Tisztul_A_Visztula

    The internet probably has a lot to do with this. If you grew up watching TV, you watched whatever was on, including shows and movies aimed at your parents. Now we can all watch only the things that we want to watch. 

    The irony is that due to the paradox of choice, this overabundance of content means that you may watch fewer things than before.

    Saw a post from a guy who said that he visited his parents at Christmas and they still have cable TV - he ended up watching a good movie that he wouldn't have otherwise watched, because it happened to be on at the time, due to fear of missing out. He made the observation that the old practice of channel surfing was a precursor to modern scrolling.

    By the same arguments, there is no longer a monoculture (e.g. in North America), even though one may have existed as recently as 2012 or so. Back then, large numbers of people in North America were still watching the same shows (e.g. Game of Thrones) and listening to the same music.

    Now there isn't much of a monoculture - everyone has their own little niche.

    Tisztul_A_Visztula said:
    And maybe all of these are not mainly due to the contents, but the format, how a film looks like, how fast it is, what resolution it has etc.

    Sure, it's like how anyone who grew up with colour TV/movies would think that a black and white film is old.

    Yet people of many different generations still watch and discuss Casablanca. Vertigo was long before my time, but I think it's one of the best movies ever. There are also people born around 2000 who have an interest in 1990s movies and culture.

    I think people who truly care about history, culture and media will always be in the minority. As a teen I was an insufferable movie snob, and my older cousins were like "who cares, it's just entertainment". They're smart guys too, who grew up to be very successful.

    I think the attitude that media is just entertainment (as opposed to having cultural, artistic and historical value) has always dominated.

    Similarly, the internet is just "content" now. If the content isn't making money, it's not valuable. That's why forums are shut down, and that's why vulture capitalists buy up old sites that used to be popular (either sites with good journalism or sites with lots of user-generated content), and replace all the old content with AI slop.

  • in reply to Tisztul_A_Visztula
    Tisztul_A_Visztula said:
    Even if my English is far from perfect

    Your English is fine.

    Tisztul_A_Visztula said:
    I really just asked you, and the choice is really yours. Just consider it as a simple favour being asked.

    It's an unreasonable request.

    You are asking me to give up my right to say what I want.

    If you want to be free to say what you want, you have to let people say what they want. If people disagree with you, you have the just deal with it. That's just the way things work. It's a public forum.

    Tisztul_A_Visztula said:
    And just to not cause any appearances of any hostility, let me explain why I asked you: while I was really grateful of your explanations, your bolded sentence implied as all of my posts was about being concerned, which was definitely not the case.

    (I'm not seeing any hostility.) Now, I'm stuck having to figure out what things you approve of or don't. 

    Tisztul_A_Visztula said:
    My point was always finding whether there was inconsistency in the (hi)story of this forum. I do hope that pointing to inconsistencies help the whole mankind. And if one's pointing is false, he can get a new piece of information why it is false. 

    It's interesting (maybe) but it it isn't helping anybody (there's nothing people can do about it.