Fitness Equipment Control on Watches

MoxyRoger 1 day ago

The specs for the Forerunner 570 and 965 shows that they natively support Smart Trainer Control.

www.garmin.com/.../

However both return false in a ConnectIQ App from the following check.

if (Toybox.AntPlus has :FitnessEquipment) {

The Edge 540 returns true to the same check.

What's going on with this? Do the forerunners NOT support FEC natively or is it just not exposed in CIQ or is this a bug in the simulator?

Thanks!

0 flocsy🤠 1 day ago

According to the docs only edges support it: developer.garmin.com/.../FitnessEquipment.html . Of course the docs can be wrong as well.

I have an fr965 and in the system settings > Sensors & Accessories > Add new there is "Smart trainer"

0 MoxyRoger 1 day ago

Hmmm...I have the code written for a CIQ connection to the trainer when the native FEC support isn't available so that's not a big deal. However, if you connect to a sensor natively, typically CIQ won't allow you to connect to the same sensor using generic ANT so the user would need to remove the native connection to the trainer before pairing to it inside of the CIQ app.

0 flowstate 1 day ago in reply to flocsy🤠

flocsy🤠 said:
According to the docs only edges support it: developer.garmin.com/.../FitnessEquipment.html . Of course the docs can be wrong as well.

I have an fr965 and in the system settings > Sensors & Accessories > Add new there is "Smart trainer"

Clearly FEC is only exposed in the CIQ API for Edge devices, despite both Edges and watches supporting FEC natively.

flocsy🤠 said:
Of course the docs can be wrong as well.

But the docs clearly match OP's experience with the has check for FitnessEquipment in AntPlus.

If the docs reflect the behaviour of the API, especially on a real device, then by most reasonable definitions, they aren't "wrong". (Iow they apparently reflect reality.)

MoxyRoger said:
However, if you connect to a sensor natively, typically CIQ won't allow you to connect to the same sensor using generic ANT so the user would need to remove the native connection to the trainer before pairing to it inside of the CIQ app

Won't this be a problem if they need distance, speed and HR to be recorded natively in their indoor cycling activities when they use a trainer? I don't have any experience with trainers - I would guess that HR wouldn't be a problem as it's coming from somewhere other than the trainer itself anyway, but what about distance and speed?

0 MoxyRoger 1 day ago in reply to flowstate

flowstate said:
Won't this be a problem if they need distance, speed and HR to be recorded natively in their indoor cycling activities when they use a trainer? I don't have any experience with trainers - I would guess that HR wouldn't be a problem as it's coming from somewhere other than the trainer itself anyway, but what about distance and speed?

We use a generic ANT channel to connect to the Smart Trainer in the ConnectIQ app. You can get at the speed and distance data this way BUT..... you would need to save it in the .fit file using the developer data format which isn't as widely supported as the standard format (even if you use the native num thing). We also have the user pair to the trainer as a NATIVE power meter so we get the power data in the .fit file in the standard format.

It would be better if the FEC was just exposed in ConnectIQ if the watch supports it natively.

0 flowstate 21 hours ago in reply to MoxyRoger

MoxyRoger said:
You can get at the speed and distance data this way BUT..... you would need to save it in the .fit file using the developer data format which isn't as widely supported as the standard format (even if you use the native num thing).

Yeah my point exactly

MoxyRoger said:
It would be better if the FEC was just exposed in ConnectIQ if the watch supports it natively.

Yup