[META] Forum returning lots of errors today (e.g. parens, links and images cause problems)

Sorry, don't really know where to post this, but I've been seeing a lot of weird errors in the forum today.

"An error occurred. Please try again or contact your administrator" is returned when:

- parens are used in certain ways (it's hard to pin exactly what causes the error, but I've seen errors caused by open paren followed by closed paren, as well as parens surrounding multiple paragraphs)

- you post any kind of code (unless it doesn't have parens lol)

- you post any kind of link at all. Plain text URLs are fine - they will be converted to links after the post is submitted. But if you edit a post that has a link, you have to replace it with a plain text URL before submitting the edit

- you use the forum quote feature, bc it generates a link to the quoted post. text can be manually styled with the blockquote format, though

The weirdest thing is it doesn't seem to happen consistently on every thread. For example, I think this thread will be mostly fine (I've already made and deleted test threads.) (I can't use the quote feature in this thread tho)

But I think the following thread have the problems I described above:

[https://forums.garmin.com/developer/connect-iq/f/discussion/389883/calling-srand-multiple-times]

[https://forums.garmin.com/apps-software/mobile-apps-web/f/garmin-connect-web/389792/measurement-units]

It's pretty easy to recreate - just reply with a link or edit an existing comment with a link, and the forum will return the same error as described above.

I'm not sure if the forum is applying some sort of "enhanced security" to certain threads?

EDIT: Also, I just tried to paste an image into this very post and I got the same error. Pasting an image in a reply also fails. Same with using an image URL.

So it seems that the problem with images is more widespread than the problems with links and parens.

  • I've been talking with IT about this one, and they've been working with the forum vendor to resolve it. As some have suggested, it appears to be a CloudFlare issue—I don't have any details beyond that, but it is being worked.

  • I've been told this should be fixed after some Cloudflare adjustments. Let us know if you're still having issues!

  • The forum is still rejecting posts that contain certain usages of parens and certain types of code. 

    In my case, when I get these errors, I usually end up replacing parens with square brackets and/or replacing entire code blocks with screenshots.

    It’s pretty frustrating, and others having been sporadically reporting this type of thing. Just look at some of the recent posts in the discussion forum or bug report forum where ppl say stuff like “I tried to insert code but the forum wouldn’t let me — huh, weird!”

    Ofc the vast majority of posts don’t contain any code (especially outside of the CIQ subforums), so most ppl probably aren’t affected. I think short posts (the majority of posts) are also more likely to be unaffected. It’s still the case that sometimes you can get around this problem by splitting up a longer post into a couple of shorter posts.

    I’m kind of curious whether these errors are logged or not (in such a way that ppl from Garmin can see them and use them to track down the problem)?

  • I’m kind of curious whether these errors are logged or not (in such a way that ppl from Garmin can see them and use them to track down the problem)?

    LOL

  • I’m kind of curious whether these errors are logged or not (in such a way that ppl from Garmin can see them and use them to track down the problem)?

    LOL

    I’m glad you picked up on the absurd implication in that statement (that the forum experience is important enough that this kind of problem would be fixed if nobody — or relatively few people — complain).

    But seriously: it’s annoying that the forum has the ability to reject our posts for seemingly arbitrary reasons, but there seems to be no way to fix the problem once and for all. My point is there’s no way I’m going to collect samples of every type of post that was rejected, or try to figure out exactly *why* these posts were rejected (other than to note that it’s always some combo of parens, code, formatting, images or length), so it would be really great if these errors *were* logged so the problematic posts could be noted and the root causes could be addressed, without constant nagging from a tiny portion of the userbase.

    But like I said, I see the absurdity there. Since the “general public” (99.99% of active forum posters) is apparently happy now, nothing is gonna get fixed on its own.

  • fantastic! I wanted to respond, but now I can't post either...

    OK I found it, it was the parentheses...

  • I don't work in Garmin, but I can extrapolate an answer based on how things go in companies I worked in plus experience here as a user - just like you ...

    1. the forum doesn't generate revenue, just takes resources (money + time)

    2. they have no idea how to configure CloudFlare

    3. they have no idea where to look for the logs

    4. they have no time to look at the logs, besides if they look they'll see the 1st 3 examples, all of which are legitimately blocked, because they are real spam, and they won't notice your post attempt

    5. even if they found it they don't know how to fix it

    6. if they attempted to fix it it'll break other things

    and the list goes on...