Unable to sideload widget to Venu SQ

Hi Jim.

I've installed the store version before starting. After sideloading the debug .prg and waiting for the watch to restart there is no sign of the widget on the Venu Sq.

I'd love to get to the point of creating the debug log filename, I'm still at the "where has the widget gone" stage

Anything in the ciq_log file?  If the prg was deleted by the watch, you might see something there.

Not a thing in GARMIN\APPS\LOGS :(

Could there be something odd with the way the Venu Sq handles widgets? - the Garmin mobile app does not list widgets for the Venu Sq, though you can install them form the store via "Get more applications"

Thanks

Are you sure you're not confusing the Venu Sq and Venu Sq 2?  The Sq 2 is a CIQ 4.x device and doesn't have widgets

If you build a widget for the Venu Sq and copy it to a venu sq 2, the prg will get deleted. 

Well, there may well be something confusing here :)

I bought it as a "Venu Sq", which is how the  Garmin mobile app identifies it, but I can install widgets from the store, and swiping up or down to a widget and holding the bottom right button show options including remove and re-order widgets... ?

With CIQ 4 devices, they are actually "super apps" and have a glance view, and in the CIQ Mobile app, you don't see "widgets", just device apps.  Super apps do show in the glance loop if they have a glance view.

So do you have a Venu Sq or a Venu Sq 2 and are you building the sideload for the proper device?

Its a Venu Sq. It does not work with a widget built for the Venu Sq. Just to confirm I've also tried building the widget for the Venu Sq 2, which also does not work

abs0d said:

I've installed the store version before starting

Sorry for the dumb question but do you mean you *uninstalled* the store version first?

abs0d said:

there is no sign of the widget on the Venu Sq

I assume you mean the widget isn't present in the UI, but do you also mean the widget PRG isn't present in the file system? The latter situation would be expected as newer music-enabled watches move some or all app types to user-inaccessible storage (\GARMIN\APPS\MEDIA as you noted). EDIT: I guess GARMN\APPS\MEDIA isn't hidden on all devices, or maybe not all apps which go there are necessarily hidden.

Are you able to sideload any other widgets? How about other app types?

If you're out of ideas, you could always upload a beta version of your app to the store (with a different UUID) which has your debug code. Of course, if widgets *are* hidden in the file system for your Venu SQ, you'd have to look in \GARMIN\DEVICE.XML to discover the filename of the PRG in order to create the corresponding LOG file.

FlowState said:

Sorry for the dumb question but do you mean you *uninstalled* the store version first?

Ahh! Sorry, its been a long day here, and a certain other sports app deciding to rework all its API limits late on a Friday did not make it any shorter. Yes, "uninstalled"

This just led me on a strange journey which gave me a working watch...

I looked in \GARMIN\APPS\MEDIA and saw three .prg files - HYD.PRG, MCT.PRG and a file with 8 more or less random characters. Since the latter was about the size of a debug build of our widget, I removed it then ejected the watch.

When connected the watch again the file was still gone from \GARMIN\APPS\MEDIA, but had now appeared in \GARMIN\APPS.

I removed it from \GARMIN\APPS then ejected, reconnected and it was still gone.

I copied our widget into \GARMIN\APPS and it now shows up in the carousel, and is in \GARMIN\APPS\MEDIA with its full name.

So, possibly something got into a strange state and it had a broken version of the widget blocking any further update?

Whatever happened, its working now, and thanks for the nudge to go checking!

Time to make a .txt file in LOGS :)

David