Use Forerunner/Fenix for Paragliding

I did a full redesign of my datafield for Walk & F*y action ... 

https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/61ae3176-52ce-4018-b280-e98fab86c433

Just another expample of the world gone nuts....they make watches/apps suitable for diving which is far more dangerous than PG... for a company that builds its brand on 'adventurous'  sctivities banning a PG app is senseless.  It's the woke brigade infiltrating the world of adventure...no risk=no growth= no reward.  C'mon Garmin...you never know you may be able to occupy Suunto's spot as the premier watch for freeflight ...and then maybe the X Alps will take your products a little more seriously. 

Why

is extreme flying band scuba diving is an extreme sport and it’s allowed 

Whitecshark said:

Why

is extreme flying band scuba diving is an extreme sport and it’s allowed 

Garmin makes dive watches but they actually prohibit Connect IQ apps for scuba diving.

I don’t want to state the blindingly obvious, but the reason they ban Connect IQ apps which are intended for certain activities is they don’t want to be held responsible (and get sued) if someone gets seriously injured or dies while using some random dev’s 3rd party app.

It’s a different story for any feature that Garmin develops in-house - they can test their own stuff to the satisfaction of their lawyers and stand behind it.

https://developer.garmin.com/connect-iq/app-review-guidelines/

b. Physical Safety

Your app must not threaten the physical safety or well-being of users or anyone else. We reserve the right to reject any app that we believe is unsafe or could, directly or indirectly, cause anyone harm. This includes apps that may create a false sense of security, such as “safety awareness” apps.

Here are some specific issues to avoid:

• Harmful Challenges: Your app should not encourage or challenge users to act or use devices in a manner that risks physical harm to themselves or others. For example, apps should not challenge users to perform exercises or activities in a manner likely to result in injury or to drink excessive amounts of alcohol.

• Dangerous Activities: We prohibit apps that are designed to be used during dangerous activities such as scuba diving, free diving, skydiving, base-jumping, and extreme flight sports, even if your app is designed to work with one of Garmin’s products that has been designed for those activities. For example, you may create apps that add functionality to a Garmin Descent series dive watch, but your app should not be intended only for use during a user’s dive.

While I understand it. I think it is daft. Dangerous activities are so subjective

waterkip said:

While I understand it. I think it is daft. Dangerous activities are so subjective

I don't have a link handy, but I seem to recall a convo between an annoyed dev and Garmin employee on the subject of their app which was banned for this kind of thing.

The employee said that they understood the dev's frustration and actually said that the dev was free to make any app they want as long as it's not hosted on the Connect IQ store.

I found that pretty interesting tbh. Basically lowkey suggesting that a dev should just go outside the official CIQ ecosystem and give users an app they can sideload.

Wonder what the lawyers would think of that.

I mean in practical terms I think Garmin knows that 99.9999% of users are not going to sideload a random app. (Most users don't even use CIQ at all, afaik, except maybe for watchfaces or preinstalled apps like Spotify.) Still seems wild to me that any employee would suggest sideloading tho, even by implication.

I read the app is FOSS so sideloading should be pretty easy. You build the iq file, extract the prg from it and use some kind of website for ppl to download it from. Or ppl build it locally.

I don't think its weird for devs to advise certain things. Garmin policy is not created by devs but by marketing and legal ppl. Ppl who know nothing about either dev or their userbase.

waterkip said:

I don't think its weird for devs to advise certain things. Garmin policy is not created by devs but by marketing and legal ppl. Ppl who know nothing about either dev or their userbase.

Yeah, but a Garmin employee (even a dev)? I can't imagine an Apple employee advising a user to jailbreak their device. Obviously CIQ is small potatoes so it's not a great comparison.

waterkip said:

Or ppl build it locally.

That would be the ultimate passing of the buck lol.

Garmin to dev: "we can't take the risk of distributing this app but go ahead and distribute it yourself!"

Dev to user: "I can't take the risk of distributing this app but go ahead and build it yourself!"

I-ve seen stuff like this. Oh yeah, I made X/Y/Z, here are the build instructions and good luck with it. Experts in their field but not developers. They do things differently.