Can a GARMIN GPS device become a bridge for RFID tasks? Not with UHF, but with Bluetooth

There is a type of stickers, called Wiliot stickers, that need to harvest energy (no battery) to broadcast data packets without battery. To do so, they harvest energy from RF sources, in this case by harvesting the energy from a Bluetooth device called Bridge/Gateway. I would like to know whether is it possible to deploy the Wiliot SDK to transform my Garmin830 into a Bridge and be able to use the sticker to track my bike

Thanks!!

  • Attached a tag to the bike, energize it with Garmin and be able to transform the GARMIN in a gateway

    A gateway to what? For what purpose? (It's not a "where is my bicycle" purpose.) "Gateway" is a fuzzy term anyway.

    Here is the basic chain you have available to you:

    Sensor (the Willot thing) -> 830 -> Phone -> some website.

    (Connecting to a website is optional. One could just communicate to an app on the phone.)

    If being powered by the 830 is a requirement, I doubt the 830 will provide enough.

    Is there any department in GARMIN where I can address this question apart from this forum? I have no idea

    I don't think there is any public access to the appropriate department. These sorts of things are generally internal (unless you start throwing money at the company).

    (There are some companies' that do provide public access to engineers. Williot appears to be one but Garmin does not.)

  • Thank you so much man

    I owe you some cold beers in Madrid!!!

  • (There's a lot I don't know about this stuff.)

    I have an idea for using a BT beacon but the purpose is pretty clear and concrete.

    I still have no idea what you are trying to do.

    I am using a beacon from here (which happens to be another company one can talk to).

    https://bluecharmbeacons.com/

    It's battery powered and uses open data (so, you don't need a SDK.)

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    I suspect that the Williot thing can't "scavenge" RF power from anything that happens to be around.

    That is, I suspect that it needs some sort of device to deliberately transmit extra power for it to work (because there wouldn't be enough power otherwise).

    Basically, the Williot thing appears to sits between a self-powered beacon that can send all sorts of data and an RFID that doesn't require power but can't send much data at all.

    If the Williot could scavenge RF power from what's normally in a home, they would be very useful for home automation.

  • Hi dpawly!

    How is it going? Hope you are OK!!

    I followed your advice and decided to develop my own sensor!!! hahahahhahaha!!

    I am a bit lost with Data fields and whether it is possible to ask GARMIN to include my data in the GPS devices without building a new app. Are you familar with this type of things?

    Thanks!!

  • whether it is possible to ask GARMIN to include my data in the GPS devices without building a new app

    I’d guess there would be no chance at all for this. (Why would Garmin want to incur the cost to do this?)

    Maybe, you can make your data look like something that already exists.

  • (Why would Garmin want to incur the cost to do this?)

    Is it very expensive to allow a new sensor to provide a new data field? They are not developing the sensor, it is me the one investing in it. I thought that this process would be very smooth

  • Is it very expensive to allow a new sensor to provide a new data field?

    Of, course, each change in the firmware is expensive. First of all it would have to be done in the firmware of up to hundreds of different models, it would increase the support queries, the need of documentation in countless of user manuals, and translations to dozens of languages, the training of the support staff, etc. etc. And then why would they add your sensors, and not sensors of other 3rd parties? That's what the Connect IQ apps are for. Why not using it? You do not need to ask Garmin anything.

  • You can write your own data field and publish it to access your sensor.  No need for Garmin to write one. Sensors are ANT or BLE so you can use those directly, or use a companion app on the phone for something else.

  • That's what the Connect IQ apps are for. Why not using it? You do not need to ask Garmin anything.

    What I would like to achieve is that my sensor (Ant+) connects to my 830, send the info recorded on the chip (as simple as my name and my bike) so it can be displayed on a data field of my Garmin and once the workout is finished, this info can be included in the FIT file. Can I do this via Connect IQ? I thought CIQ apps only offer new alternatives to show the actual data fields