Decent watchface for the Vivoactive

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Hello guys.

I am disappointed, bordering on being appalled, by the fact that to this point it appears there's NOT A SINGLE decent watch-face for the Garmin VivoActive. :mad:

And by decent I mean: a) graphically pleasing by efficiently working with the watch's rectangular face and b) presenting actually useful information on a watchface and not cramming all sort of auxiliary data data which is just a swipe away anyway.

In more detail, here is what I mean:
1] alarm set symbol (not the time the alarm is set for, just a symbol that shows only if an alarm is set and is off if it isn't)
2] bluetooth on symbol (not showing is there's no bluetooth connection)
3] battery status (graphic symbol maybe displaying a thin red line on a hollow battery when level below 10%).
4] * sleep on indication would have been nice but I understand this is not (yet?) possible to implement at this time because the Garmin VivoActive firmware does not allow for another watchface other than the default digital one to be displayed while the watch is in sleep mode :mad: (rather crap if you ask me - why is it a problem on the Vivoactive but very well possibe on the Fenix3?)

Please take the attached sketch "with a grain of salt" as it's just a rough indication of what I mean and not an elaborate version with graphically coherent symbols.



Anyone interested in collaborating into making this happen?
Looking forward to your enthusiastic replies... :o
  • Here is the SDK sample analog with a few tweeks. There is no way to show device alarm status, and sleep status can not be displayed on the VA in a CIQ, because, when you are in "sleep mode", you can only see the default watchface, and not a CIQ one.



    the fonts here are from the simulator and are differ on a real device. It's on my va right now to test it out, but it's very simplistic, in things like 12/24 hr, am/pm , etc.

    What you see here is basically all the functions you can get based on your post.

    With this one, the battery symbol is green if over 50%, and red if under 50%, and under 10%, the battery shows empty. The hands here are a bit thicker, and the colors of the date make it easier to read on on the va..



    Having a second hand on an analog CIQ watchface might be a bit much, as for most of the time, the display only gets updated every minute.
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 9 years ago
    A step in the right direction

    Thank you so much for your reply.
    I now understand the limitations of the firmware which doesn't allow neither alarm not sleep mode activation being displayed on a CIQ face (get your act together Garmin! :mad:)
    About the watchface you presented, would it be at all possible to eliminate those garish numbers and replace them with lines (I guess everybody who knows how to read a watch knows where 6, 9 and 12 are... :D
    By all means please let me know when you make your watchface available...
    Thank you again.
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 9 years ago
    I would have a request for this as well. Why in the world would you need to know the seconds on a clock for only 10 seconds. Every watch face I've tried adding times out after ten seconds, and yes I know it has to do with low power mode. I don't care about low power. A constantly displayed seconds field would be beneficial for many uses (i.e. a quick look timer for nurses taking heart rate on patients.) Since the vivoactive is supposed to be an "all-in-one" this seems like an essential part of a watch. The only watch face I have seen with a continuously displayed seconds field is the default watch face (which has no health information displayed.) A watch face that was like the Actiface with seconds and heart rate added would be perfect. I have seen Garmin watches that have these functions. Are these things possible to include? I will learn how to code on my own if I have to. Thank you.
  • The only watch face I have seen with a continuously displayed seconds field is the default watch face (which has no health information displayed.)

    Yes. This is the only watch face that will be able to pull this off since it isn't written on top of ConnectIQ.

    A watch face that was like the Actiface with seconds and heart rate added would be perfect... Are these things possible to include? I will learn how to code on my own if I have to.

    ConnectIQ does not allow access to heart rate from a watch face, and as you pointed out, you only get the seconds to be displayed when the watch face is temporarily taken out of low power mode.
  • Still playing around with with this. And yes, ONLY the default watchface can display seconds all the time as Garmin tuned it do do that, so that is not an option in CIQ, nor are things that are not available in the current CIQ SDK and device FW (like alarm status or heart rate)...

    My main rule on developing stuff in CIQ, is "Is this something I'd use on my wrist?" If not, I drop it!

    Also note, that when Garmin provides user configuration, the background color, foreground color, and watchhand color will be configurable. (and maybe what stuff displayed when not in low power mode)

    In the images, please note they are from the CIQ simulator on a PC, and colors, specific font size, and how "smooth" things like the watchhands are, are different/better on the real device.

    I am NOT a fan of analog watch faces myself, so this is a stretch for me. When in low power mode, it's the basics. The analog time, the DOW and date, the battery level, and the "phoneConnected status. The battery icon will flip foreground/background colors when it's under 50%. And in 12 hr mode, the center circle on the watch hands will flip fg/bg colors for am/pm.



    When you drop out of low power mode (10 seconds at a time) you get the full time in a digital format, as well as steps vs goal. (seeing steps is important to me, and seeing the time where angles don't matter is too!)



    And what you can make it look like when CIQ allows configuration:



    I will probably add "move" status somewhere that it not imposing, so this isn't a final version.
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 9 years ago
    My main rule on developing stuff in CIQ, is "Is this something I'd use on my wrist?" If not, I drop it!



    And this is? Wow! :(







    May I please ask what lead to the decision to display date/date and battery status on white rectangular "holes" when EVERYTHING else on the watchface is on black?
    I fully understand that programming might be what you're better at, but it's a (rare) virtue for one to know and acknowledge their shortcomings (in this case design)... just saying. :o
    Oh, and just to stop a silly debate about "personal taste" before is starts, I will add that THERE IS such a thing as GOOD versus POOR design, not in the least dependant on any personal, subjective take on it.
  • The inverse is to show things like low battery (less than 50%) and under step goal, at a glace. Like I said, it's stuff I'd want on my wrist.

    Seems they only way you'll be happy is if you learn the CIQ SDK and roll your own.

    I'm done.
  • I concur with Jim and also something which I've know some parties align to.
    If you pay me, I will do what you want, if you don't, I do what I want.

    CIQ has been good for me cos I do what is useful for me, especially since CIQ has no feature for a paid app of sorts.

    Then again, with the Garmin, and comparing it with the apple watch or the moto360 (facerepo), I tend to think that the design tradeoff between battery life / features / GPS etc and the non-reflective chroma display, the colour being more muted, an analog watch doesn't look as stunning as that on the moto (that I've seen on facerepo - not that I've seen an actual moto360 and can rave shout the display / dismay at the battery life)
  • NIKEOW Thanks for the backing!

    To me, this tread is a GREAT example of how NOT to ask for a free "something". If I was paid, I'd do anything in an app I was paid to do, but I'm doing this FOR FREE!

    The first hack I take at the code, I see "garish numbers", even though I mentioned that this was in the simulator and on the real device, the fonts are much different.

    And the "Oh, and just to stop a silly debate about "personal taste" before is starts, I will add that THERE IS such a thing as GOOD versus POOR design, not in the least dependant on any personal, subjective take on it."

    This tells me that the requester has NO idea on what can be done, or what someone will do FOR FREE! If an app like this has ANY chance in the app store, it WILL be different than his view of his "perfect design" (which is different than mine!)! I've only been programming professionally for 30 years. I wonder how long the OP has been "designing"! :)

    When suggesting something, it's best to work with someone and just ask questions, vs using "garish" and "your design sucks", IMHO!
  • Ditto.

    then again - perhaps the poster is ahead of our time. (just saying what this writer noted in his article)

    http://www.wired.com/2014/07/homer-simpson-car/

    anyone remembers that episode? chuckles..