Basecamp Still Sees Deleted Waypoints & Tracks On Nuvi

I have a 3490. I can delete my trip logs and waypoints on the device itself. However, when I connect the unit to Basecamp and select internal storage, all the tracks and waypoints that I deleted on the Nuvi, still appear (but only on Basecamp - not the unit itself). This is a bug for sure as the Nuvi masks out the data but obviously it still is in the unit unless by chance the information is cached on the PC side for Basecamp. Not sure but I have submitted this information to a contact I met at CES so I'm hoping this can be resolved. I would hate to sell this unit down the road with all my information in it (and still building).
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    SUSSAMB,

    Made an interesting discovery today - you cannot access or see the .System folder on their new 3597. Do you suppose that is to protect their data or maybe its insurance that a customer cannot "brick" their device.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Made an interesting discovery today - you cannot access or see the .System folder on their new 3597.


    Are you in MTP (the default) or mass-storage mode? If your device has a drive letter in Windows Explorer you're in mass-storage, If not you're in MTP.

    Do you suppose that is to protect their data or maybe its insurance that a customer cannot "brick" their device.


    Yes. Most new models operate in MTP mode which hides stuff from the user.

    You should be able to put your unit in mass-storage mode.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Stuart,

    I thought I was in mass storage but maybe we were not. I cannot double check as that 3597 is in the mail back to Garmin to exchange for a 3590. We were very disappointed in the 3597.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    I thought I was in mass storage but maybe we were not.


    We unless you specifically put it in that mode your 3597 was probably in MTP mode. As I said before in MTP mode there is no drive letter assigned.
  • I'm slightly confused as for most of this thread you mentioned a 3590? Or did you have both a 3590 and a 3597?
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    Sorry for the confusion.

    I have a 3590

    The 3597 mentioned is my brother's
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    It's certainly not a bug. It's how it's intended to operate. To be fair the items to be deleted aren't 'hidden', they are in a visible folder whenever you connect your GPS to your PC/Mac. What is not so good is that this behaviour isn't documented by Garmin, but then documentation is pretty sparse these days hence the popularity of user forums, and that is true of many companies :)


    Perhaps, but can you explain then the intent of the designers to have a "feature" where a waypoint can be created, then deleted from the device, but visible when attached to basecamp, and can only be deleted from THAT view by turning on special (and potentially unsafe) connection modes, and launching a system file browser (e.g. windows explorer) to dig down and delete the file containing the "ghost" waypoint? Because if that's a power-feature, I'd like to know how to properly use it to my benefit.
  • As I'm not the designer then no, but I suspect it's because originally Basecamp was designed AFAIK to work with handheld units. Waypoints etc on those can be deleted via Basecamp.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 12 years ago
    FYI

    OLATHE, Kan./January 14, 2009/Business Wire — Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, announced today the introduction of Garmin BaseCamp – a utility that allows users to plan and manage trips, routes, tracks, and waypoints and transfer them between the computer and applicable Garmin outdoor handheld device.


    http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2009/01/introducing-basecamp-garmins-new-tool-for-planning-and-reviewing-all-of-your-outdoor-adventures.html#.Udgo223heSw

    The early versions of BaseCamp would only work with Topo maps. Only later were road maps, and nuvi's, supported.