I tested this yeterday using the current running power data field. As I have a Stryd footpod I wanted to compare results. I changed the Running app settings to remove the Stryd Power data field and added the Garmin Running Power data field. I could see the data display on my FR935 as I ran a short run and when finished the data displayed in Garmin Connect.
However I use Training Peaks to analyze my workouts and the recorded power did not get imported into training peaks as part of the run, like it normally does with Stryd running power.
I've checked that the 'write power to file' was set on the app.
Probably Training Peaks haven't updated their software yet. The Garmin power values and the Stryd ones will be stored under slightly different names in the FIT File and the TP software probably saw nothing where it usually looks. Suggest contact them for advice. It looks like it is going to be a problem mixing Stryd and Garmin power values however as it seems the Garmin numbers are typically higher. It is in the FAQ linked above.
Gave RunPow a try last night with my HRM-Run 4 (the red pod), a (calibrated) footpod and of course my FR935. I had RunPow on two screens, just Power with 3 other fields (Pace, Lap Pace and HR) and one with Combo Power.
- The absolute value of the power data is hard to relate to although my 379 watt average sounds rather high based on the data of cyclists climbing Alpine passes (500w is considered "suspicious") ;-) - I found Power (instant) to be pretty stable when keeping a steady pace on flat ground. A pleasant surprise after reading DCR's review where he said it fluctuated a lot. Maybe he wasn't using a footpod. - It did react very quickly as soon as there was a bit of ascent (almost "before" the actual D+ looking at the GC chart, maybe because I anticipated the climb?) and when I picked up the pace, again, "before" the actual pace peak, as the body has to "work" before reaching it. - I had enabled the Wind factor and it clearly took that into account on the short portion where I was facing the wind with values around 400w. Connect shows a wind strength of 14kph which seems a bit high though but the direction is correct.
Overall this seems to work reasonably well in the sense that it's consistent. How useful it can be for training I'm not sure but I'm looking forward to seeing my Power values for intervals or a 10k !
As a side note, when I saw the power pick up going up a bridge I was wondering if showing a D+/D- corrected pace (like Strava's GAP) wouldn't be (more) useful actually since a runner generally knows what 10k/HM/M Pace he can sustain on flat ground, unlike Power, at least for now.
Also, wouldn't it be possible to show the "accumulated power" expended on a run to get a sense of where you're at compared to previous races ?
I'm super exited! Though now I have a problem among many others: garmin www site has incorrect software version on my f935 hence I can not install data fields. It has 6.10 though my watch has 7.00. I have rebooted watch, updated garmin connect android app and rebooted my phone. Www-site indicates synchronization date/gime correctly.
Can soneone please help? I am not only one with the issue.
Please enable native power support in RUN profiles. I think this would be the best way to use power in RUNNING profiles. By doing so, you would also enable all interval features, alerts etc.
The RUN power profile should be exactly like a BIKE profile.
> As a side note, when I saw the power pick up going up a bridge I was wondering if showing a D+/D- corrected pace (like Strava's GAP) wouldn't be (more) useful actually since a runner generally knows what 10k/HM/M Pace he can sustain on flat ground, unlike Power, at least for now.
I think "at least for now" is the point. Many cyclists now know what watts means for them as have been using it for a while.
I am still a little sceptical about power for running as most of my running can be "gauged" off just pace. It will be interesting though experimenting with different strategy on rolling courses where even pace will not be even effort but even power ought to be - at least in theory.
Please enable native power support in RUN profiles. I think this would be the best way to use power in RUNNING profiles. By doing so, you would also enable all interval features, alerts etc.
The RUN power profile should be exactly like a BIKE profile.
THANKS :)
I think "native support" can only now logically happen when a standard for running power has been agreed. According to the DC Rainmaker article yesterday this in the works.
"The real question may be where running power goes from here. An ANT+ working group has been established, and various players are operating within it to establish standards and definitions. That may be part of the first step to getting some consistency between the players."
I think "native support" can only now logically happen when a standard for running power has been agreed. According to the DC Rainmaker article yesterday this in the works.
"The real question may be where running power goes from here. An ANT+ working group has been established, and various players are operating within it to establish standards and definitions. That may be part of the first step to getting some consistency between the players."
But I don't get it. It's just a number... Higher or lower depending on source. It can only be a matter of defining your zones, then everything should work.
FWIW - Polar and Suunto implemented as native support long time ago (as I get it).
I observed my heart rate tracked very closely to my power output as far as when I increased / decreased my effort which makes sense.
I have a two part question...My 1st is regarding determining ftp. Could I perform an ftp cycling test (except running) an all out 20 min effort ???and then subtract 5% to estimate ftp and then apply that to determine power zones for running? 2nd question...will ftp values in garmin connect be updated as I perform more runs with power app or is that ftp value based on cycling data?
