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your experiences with (different) headphones

Former Member
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Hi,
I just need to find new headphones for the 645.
Any experiences with the Garmin list or any other models?
Thanks, Jol
  • I got my 645M today and have just paired Jaybird Run earbuds, they work fine.
    Need to go at least 6-7m away from the watch (and 2 walls between) to notice short drops, so i can't imagine that it will make a difference if i wear it on the left or right wrist during running.
  • After having big issues with the Apple Airpods i got the Aftershokz trekz air bone conducting earphone (wanted these for safe running anyway) Ive been using for about 2 hours with no problems at all.


    What do you think of these so far?
  • I love my Aftershokz. I marvel that so many people run with ear buds and are clueless when it comes to situational awareness. I am a runner and am not an audiophile, they work for me. 11-12 hours use before recharge. Have been using them for about 3 months with my FB Ionic. Around 600 miles no drops!
    My 645 arrives today, The only way I can check out will be setting some prompts while running. Maybe I Heart will show up in the next couple of weeks. Had run over 88,000 miles w/o music mainly because I have found being situationally aware has enabled me to have run on the roads for almost 42 years. Hopefully folks with earbuds at least run facing traffic and use lights/ bright colors when out on the road- day or night. Nick
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    I've connected my Bose Soundsport wireless and they seem to work well. I'm impressed to see that the 2 clicks, 3 clicks etc on the volume control works on the watch like it does on my iPhone
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    Regarding the Garmin official list -

    The Garmin FAQ is basically a non-apology for not supporting any truly wireless bluetooth headphones/earphones. If you look at the official list of supported/recommended headphones/earphones you will probably notice that the only models on the list are all corded models, i.e. those earpieces that are connected to each other by a cord. And no mention of other non-Apple truly wireless models such as the Jabra Elite Sport or Bragi Dash products. Why is that? Probably because they have poor connection problems to the 645m as well.

    Let’s face it – Garmin is buying off the shelf bluetooth chips and associated firmware and dropping it into their watch. Antennae placement can only happen within the watch in a very few ways so that probably has no affect on connection issues. Basically the fact is that Bluetooth as a whole sucks and if you are not willing/able to make modifications to the hardware and firmware (Apple and their W1 chip and “special sauce”) then you get what you get which is mediocre at best. If you find something that works fantastic, if not, then that’s a shame. For all of us.
  • The Garmin FAQ is basically a non-apology for not supporting any truly wireless bluetooth headphones/earphones.
    Putting your own spin on what “wireless” means does not somehow change the understood meaning since Year Dot, which is that no wires are required to connect the headphones/earphones to the source of the audio content being played back, irrespective of how the headphones/earphones as a separate device (from the audio source) is constructed – with or without an over the head or behind the neck frame or cord joining the two bits that go either into or over the listener's ears.

    Let’s face it – Garmin is buying off the shelf bluetooth chips and associated firmware and dropping it into their watch.
    As it should.

    If you find something that works fantastic, if not, then that’s a shame. For all of us.
    Actually, if not, then it's potentially a contribution to a crowd-sourced knowledge base of what works, so that customers can be more confident of what the viable options are if they want a particular outcome. Not making the field of options as wide as possible is not a shame.
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    "Putting your own spin on what “wireless” means does not somehow change the understood meaning since Year Dot, which is that no wires are required to connect the headphones/earphones to the source of the audio content being played back, irrespective of how the headphones/earphones as a separate device (from the audio source) is constructed – with or without an over the head or behind the neck frame or cord joining the two bits that go either into or over the listener's ears."

    Not my "spin" on what "wireless" means. I should have been more concise with my terminology. From the Wirecutter web site:

    What are "true wireless" headphones, and who are they for?

    In case you're unfamiliar with th technology, "true wireless" headphones are in-ear Bluetooth headphones that do not have a cord connecting them either to your music device or to each other.


    "As it should."

    As it should not. We are only having this conversation because Garmin is using off the shelf tech and are thus susceptible to the limitations of the tech it has chosen to use in its products.


    "Actually, if not, then it's potentially a contribution to a crowd-sourced knowledge base of what works, so that customers can be more confident of what the viable options are if they want a particular outcome. Not making the field of options as wide as possible is not a shame."

    You completely missed my point. I’m not talking about creating a knowledge base for an on-line discussion forum for a product that encompasses tech that works today. You are implying that I do not value the creation of said knowledge base - of course the knowledge base is helpful. I'm not now nor have I ever disputed that. My point is that technology is moving forward into a “true wireless” world as defined above. Garmin only provides us with a product that works today in a more limited fashion. As I said, if it works for you, fantastic.

  • If every company that wanted to produce a BT product made their own radio chips and wrote their own software stacks they'd be more expensive and most likely less compatible.

    by that reasoning Garmin should also be building their own microprocessors, memory, GPS, and WiFi chips.
  • If you look at the official list of supported/recommended headphones/earphones you will probably notice that the only models on the list are all corded models, i.e. those earpieces that are connected to each other by a cord. And no mention of other non-Apple truly wireless models such as the Jabra Elite Sport or Bragi Dash products. Why is that? Probably because they have poor connection problems to the 645m as well.

    As mentioned before my Jaybird Run (true wireless headphones) work absolutely fine , even a few metres away from the watch (separated by a wall) .
    So i assume there can be NO "general" connection issue caused by the watch's hardware. ;-)
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 7 years ago
    What do you think of these so far?


    The aftershockz work great. had 2 runs with them.. no drop outs. I can now run on roads, I would never do this with earbuds.. Music isn't amazing and immersive but the trade off is less likelihood of death.. For podcasts these are great as they deal with less bass sounds much better. I would recommend for safe running