955 vs 965

Garmin should update this specs with each new firmware versions...

That's a good point about using the 965 on a bike...AOD is going to be dimmer and people who owned the Epix complained about that. I don't think a solution was ever found.

Elbo have you personally ever tried garmin MIP  vs AMOLED? Side by side? In wide variety of activities and lighting conditions? Because I have. I own EPIX and forerunner 945LTE. And from my own personal experience (having owned almost every forerunner ever made and running 2000 miles per year) the AMOLED is overall better. I will accept your fanboy accusation IF you’ve personally tried this side by side comparison while running.

msquared2 said:

Elbo have you personally ever tried garmin MIP  vs AMOLED?

No, I haven’t. That’s why I said “it worries me”

I do think amoled can be bright enough.

I do know the arm gesture doesn’t work 100%. (Like I said, that’s also a problem with mips in the dark, I run more in the sun than in the dark)

Then there is the sunglasses issue, someone mentioned. Do you run with sunglasses?

I do value different experiences. That helps.

And there is my opinion. Amoled adds prettynes. But nothing more. I don’t need pretty for my training/navigation. But it does make the watch more expensive. Price is a fact. Need for a prettier screen is an opinion.

forums.garmin.com/.../955-vs-the-265---my-experience-as-a-955-user

If you haven't tried it, but are interested, then take heart at what msquared2 has said! That's good news! We all basically have the option of two almost identical watches but with different screens (once the software updates go through).

It's a little frustrating to see people crying about things they don't actually want.

darrencroton said:

It's a little frustrating to see people crying about things they don't actually want.

Garmin is looking for ways to make watches more expensive because they make more money with expensive watches.

I think adding amoled doesn’t make a sportwatch better, but it makes it more expensive. But I fear in 1 or 2 years time there isn’t a cheaper screen option any more.

With smartwatches or lifestyle watches, line the fenix series, with a amoled screen I have no problem at all.

I see pictures that worries me. (I shared the link, to a highly respected dutch technical review site, I value that more than some yt gadgetblogger)

I hear people telling with sunglasses is difficult to read

I hear people saying for running it’s ok, for cycling it’s difficult to read.

I hear dcrainmaker saying on sunny days in forest the lightsensor is struggeling and it takes sometimes long before the screen is at it brightest.

And I hear people saying they have no problem at all. But they never say their use case.

My use case is running in the forest, with sunglasses and I use it for cycling.

I personally use the watch for running at night and indoor cycling during winters and I have had not any major issues with the MIP screens (I just click and turn illumination on), however during springs and summers I use the watch for outdoor running, cycling and hiking in very bright sunlight and an AMOLED will be an issue for me.

As has been mentioned a few times AMOLED is a problem for cycling if you use it on your handle bar with a QR adapter because you can't activate the full brightness with a flick of the wrist. You can still tap it though but it's an annoyance. If you wear it on your wrist you could remove your hand from the handlebar but not always safe to do that.

For cycling you can't beat a "cheap" dedicated device like the Edge 530 that will "true-up" with the forerunners.

I've used the Epix 2 and now the Venu 2 in full sunshine and legibility has never been a problem.