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daily suggest work our HR zones not matching my LTHR HR zones

Iv done a guided LTHR test and have my zones and set up according to this, but when I follow a garmin suggested workout that say I must do a base run (to my knowledge this is a zone 2 run) it gives me a HR to follow that is out of my zone 2 according to the rest. see images attached.

can someone please explain what is going on and how I can correct this?

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pdurys over 1 year ago in reply to renkyaz +1

Or here Running Science | Garmin Malaysia

Actually there are many more measures explained.
burns3 over 1 year ago +1

As far as I’m concerned, the zone percentages that I set should never be changed by Garmin unless I select “reset zones.” Go ahead and change my Max or LTHR if I have auto detect on, but leave my zones…

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0 burns3 over 1 year ago

Post your LTHR and zone percentages

0 Jared da Silva over 1 year ago in reply to burns3

its there at the bottom of the image I attached,

but ill add it below here as well, my LTHR is 169, and I have my zones below defined as my running HR zones

0 renkyaz over 1 year ago

"Base" run is something between zone 2 and zone 3. Full zone 2 is "recovery".

0 Jared da Silva over 1 year ago in reply to renkyaz

ok interesting, is there a link you have where I can read up on better definitions of this?

0 renkyaz over 1 year ago in reply to Jared da Silva

The exact values are not written anywhere. You can understand better how Training Effect works at this link. At the bottom of the page there is a table that explain how Training Effect is determined based on the type of activity.

0 burns3 over 1 year ago in reply to Jared da Silva

Change your percentages to these

Z5 >100%

Z4 95-100%

Z3 90-95%

Z2 85-90%

Z1 60-85%

Base will be anything in Z2 and high Z1

0 Jared da Silva over 1 year ago in reply to burns3

my question would be why would i want to change the zones if the guided test set them as they are? isn't that counter intuitive

0 burns3 over 1 year ago in reply to Jared da Silva

I don’t trust Garmin to set the zones properly. Mine get changed occasionally and they shouldn’t. LTHR can change but zone percentages should remain the same.

https://joefrieltraining.com/a-quick-guide-to-setting-zone/

You’ll see that he breaks Z5 in three parts but since that isn’t possible with Garmin you just set it as >100%.

0 jambongris over 1 year ago

Your zones have no effect on the Training Effect outcomes. The Training Effect outcomes (base, tempo, threshold, recovery, etc.) are all based on your max HR.

Garmin Heart Rate Monitoring

“How you configure your personal heart rate zones does not impact advanced performance metrics such as VO2 max, training status, training load, load focus, or aerobic and anaerobic training effect feedback available on compatible Garmin devices. Overestimating or underestimating your maximum heart rate can, however, affect the reliability of these metrics.”

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/garmin-technology/health-science/heart-rate-monitoring/

Are you confident that you have your max HR set correctly?

0 Jared da Silva over 1 year ago in reply to jambongris

i have it set to automatically detect it and went to check my last race at is was around 190BPM and that is what I have it set as. but the zones created from the LTHR test seem to differ from that. checking this link the ones % I have differ a lot from what he suggests, I really don't know what the correct zone ranges are supposed to be. are they the same for every person?