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VO2 max still broken, how to reset?

Software updates have not fixed the static VO2 max running estimate. I'm now slightly injured so would be happy to nuke any data that underpins this and start fresh.

What is the correct way to reset these metrics?

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vinterben over 2 years ago in reply to 8488635 +3

Hi :) I’m no sports scientist, so please correct me if I’m off: but seeing massive differences in VO2 Max _per run_ doesn’t make sense from a physiological perspective, no? Your body’s ability to util…
FlowState over 2 years ago in reply to S.M.R. +2

To be clear, my layman's understanding is that the principles of Garmin VO2 Max and runalyze VO2 Max are essentially the same: they both compare your pace to your heart rate, assume a linear relationship…
S.M.R. over 2 years ago in reply to 8488635 +1

Let me relay my situation in the hope it may be helpful . If I am repeating what you know I apologise.

I had Runalyze but I didn't realise there is a setting to display the .fit file VO2 Max. Have…

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0 vinterben over 2 years ago in reply to 8488635

Looking at your runanalyze below, it does look weird. Obviously, some changes would occur if you do the right training

About the lab test, I am 100% sure you are correct; they would never be identical, albeit similar unless you are ill, fatigued or otherwise less performing.

But that’s basically my point: if you used your VO2max for planning etc., you would have to redo it every day if your scores change everyday.

A single score is one thing, but your overall fitness is another. If you (theoretically) did 14 lab tests in a row, you’d most likely get a median and average very close to each other. Your potential watch error aside, I actually think a “running average” (no pun intended) would work better than single-point scores, exactly due to the progression.

On another note, I am curious myself: how do you do the comparison below exactly? I know when I got my 955 vs. 945 vs. 935.

0 EliteJosh over 2 years ago in reply to 8488635

Are you using a HR strap? This is very important. Garbage in Garbage out.

But overlall this makes sense, Runalyze does not take into consideration the heat, and usually drops VO2 more than garmin in the summer. Both make sense. Garmin tries to factor in the heat, runalyze just shows you your performance on a per run basis. The injury shows how garmin only slowly decreases your VO2 and Runalyze drops it immediately. Garmin flattens out right about when runalyze gets back to your pre-injury VO2.

The truth is your VO2 max would not decrease immediately when you are injured, unless it was a lung/cardiac injury. It could possibly decrease slowly if you went without cardio for an extended period of time, even then it would be slow and not what is shown above.

0 t0m83 over 2 years ago

I think the Training status is still broken as well. My training status is still stuck on "maintaining" no matter how hard I train. And I am sure my fitness improved a lot.

Does anybody else still have this problem? Or could somebody tell me what to do to get Productive training status?

0 Miky over 2 years ago in reply to t0m83

Same here, broken since last July, when Garmin changed VO2max algorithm (also VO2max stuck since then)

0 2807762 over 2 years ago in reply to t0m83

A status of maintaining can mean a number of things, but you're most likely stable/have plateaued and if you're improving, it's likely only marginally. Before I had COVID in November, my training status would remain Maintaining, but my vo2max estimate was steadily creeping up. To get Productive status by increasing Fitness (regardless of load), you'd need to start improving drastically and I've seen that only with people new to Garmin (no or very little data, so vo2max jumping all over the place).