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Adaptive training for marathon in 6 months time

I am interested in using adaptive training for a marathon in 6 months time. From what i understand (my 955 hasn't arrived yet) if i enter the race in my calendar then the suggested daily workouts will build to that race, allowing for sleep, recovery, etc along the way, including the required elements (long run, speed, easy, recovery etc). Is that true?

I am curious how the plan will look if i start 6 months out, how will it build my mileage, how will it progress long runs, how many long runs, will it limit weekly mileage if it senses i am struggling, will it change interval/tempo pace as i progress? 

(I understand i will be able to see a week's worth of forward plan)

Any experience, insights how it will work? Thanks 

  • I entered these two races sometime in July I think so 3 months before. The first part was mostly base runs.
    Are you following a program yourself ?

  • I’ve been following the suggested runs for just over 3 months (started towards end of June). 

    Now I am doing my own thing for the long runs, since they kept getting downgraded to the point they no longer constitute a long run. It would make more sense to keep the long runs and downgrade the rest of the week. 
    I also cherry pick the harder efforts from later in the week to keep it more fun, anaerobic intervals and threshold mainly. They can disappear too. 

    Possibly I am coming to the point where it doesn’t give me enough week to week progression. Keeping an eye on that. It’s easy to supplement if that becomes the case. 

    My own programs don’t usually start until 23 weeks out. Currently I’m still 28 weeks away from A race. 

  • Yes, since the first alpha on my Epix. Although I am still in my base phase as my A race is a short 10k in December. I wonder what are those Tempo runs are, as I did not get anything in between base and threshold.

  • These are Marathon pace runs based on what I've seen. They've always disappeared before I got a chance to do them though.

  • So my A race is coming up next week, an HM, after a B race (HM also) last week that I ran at M pace. After getting my time downgraded like everyone about a month ago, that B race brought me back to the same level. The race wasn't hard at that pace but my recovery hasn't been great with HRV Status taking a bit of a dip, just below the usual range but it's back in range now, just not over 7 days.

    Can't say I've seen much change in the "Adpative" training and I'm pretty alarmed and what it thinks I should do next week in the "tapering" phase, i.e. two hard Threshold sessions ! Actually after taking a look for the details I see one's now been removed so I just have 17'@T-Pace on Thursday. Hum...I usually go for 4x400@Race Pace for my last "session" but why not ;-)

  • webvan, good luck with the A race. Let us know how the final taper goes, if you like/valued the changes. 

  • Does anybody know if the adaptive training feature takes into account non-run cross trainig? With ski mountaineering season starting, will e.g. a daylong climb influence the subsequent run suggestions?

  • So my A race was a bust :-( Got sick with food poisoning earlier in the week and was apparently not completely recovered. I felt ok but my HR was really high from the get go, higher than my 10k HR so it wasn't going to end well on an HM. I stuck to my planned pace until KM11 and then stepped off the gas to finish "quietly". First time something like that happens to me in 100+ races...Don't think the program is to blame though ;-)

    Looking at a 10k in mid-december but so far the sessions don't look very inspiring, nothing like Daniel's IPace sessions.

    Your race must be getting close ?

  • Over the ten weeks my (easy pace) Stamina has increased from 13 miles/2 hours to 22 miles/3hrs 20. I'm glad it's not suggesting i put that to the test just yet. 

    Where do you see this info?

  • Just guessing, but maybe he has the stamina data field his running activity, and looks at it at the beginning of each run?