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Speculations about the long delay in updates and new features?

vdot64
over 4 years ago

Any thoughts on why Garmin is not providing any updates or patches recently?

5 months ago, myself and other identified a problem with Garmin devices not picking up run cadence properly when a smart trainer is near by. It was acknowledged by Garmin, both in these forums and during a support phone call. While the interim fix is to unplug my smart trainer when using my treadmill, this really is not a long term solution, and this problem never existed prior to the last HUB update.

I have been patiently waiting for Garmin to fix this, but I am not starting to get concerned with their lack up updates.

Many other are waiting/wanting feature updates and other fixes (Jaybird headphones as one example)

My only guess is perhaps they are focusing on a replacement model, but it sure would be nice if they would at least fix problems they have introduced.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to road-run

    It is incorrect to include beta and not planned updates. Only stable and mass updates should be accounted.

    Anyway, thanks for the link above, it helps me to get the release date of updates earlier than 2.60 and Fenix updates.

    Surprise! The development of Fenix was slowdown too in two times. However Fenix has 2-4 betas between stable and latest updates while Forerunner is waiting in the priority queue.

    In conclusion, most probable that we are experiencing the both:

    1. COVID related issues

    and

    2. Low priority for Forerunner development.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Digeridoo

    3. Time since release and time to next version.

    If they release eg. every 2 years a new model. Probably first year the new device is getting more attention and bug fixes etc, then the focus starts to shift to the upcoming model. 

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to jmto

    The second case is completely covers your case. Changing the priority means that for some stuff Garmin will pay more attention, for other - less. The reason can be any, including new devices.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Digeridoo

    Well, maybe I should have numbered it as 1. As I see that as only reason.

    COVID doesn't affect much work that can easily done remotely.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to jmto

    Covid related issues will affect all devices, while priority issues only devices the priority of which was decreased. So I prefer to differentiate them.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Dr Phil
    Dr Phil said:
    There lies damn lies and statistics.

    Seems that you are smart enough to calculate the median by yourself. The figures will be different to averages, but not a lot. What will not be changed - the last year updates happen in two times rare then before. Don't be shy, proof this.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Dr Phil

    We don't need statistics to see that 2 months without any update is an obvious anomaly, that has certainly some big change behind it. Being a new model, a new framework, whatever, something is coming...

    Just don't stop running while waiting Slight smile probably you're going to loose shape

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to road-run
    road-run said:
    We don't need statistics to see that 2 months without any update is an obvious anomaly

    How so? There are several instances where the time between updates exceeds 2 months.

    Digeridoo said:
    Don't be shy, proof this

    Prove what? The numbers are there and can be argued anyway chosen. There are more instances with shorter than 64 days between updates than with. Perhaps what we are really seeing is a slowdown in software releases/bug fixes because the product is mature. That's to be expected and can also be seen with the F6; and like as not to the same if you look at any Garmin product.

    Personally, I don't care. Updates will come when they come. I'm comfortable that my 945 works for al that I need it for.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Dr Phil
    Dr Phil said:
    How so? There are several instances where the time between updates exceeds 2 months.

    never happened with features not being in sync with fenix6. this time is different. there are at least 2 major features "missing" (one already promised and other half promised) 

    The signs that something different is going on are clear. Maybe a pause cause of a new model, maybe a cut in features among models, who knows.... 

    Of course if you don't want to see it, you wont. You can always find some outlier in data that justifies it. 

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Dr Phil
    Dr Phil said:
    Prove what? The numbers are there and can be argued anyway chosen.

    You are said that it is wrong to use averages and it is better to use median. Then proof that.

    Dr Phil said:
    There are more instances with shorter than 64 days between updates

    Which exactly since 4.40?

    Dr Phil said:
    because the product is mature

    Possible, but it is not our case since:

    • There are some features which promised, but still not implemented in Forerunner.
    • Fenix has 2-4 betas between public releases - Garmin develop it, while Forerunner is waiting.
    Dr Phil said:
    That's to be expected and can also be seen with the F6

    With 2-4 betas between stable updates? I am not sure that F6 is mature. It is easier to believe that Forerunner is mature, but see the answer for previous quote.

    Dr Phil said:
    Personally, I don't care.

    Sorry, but what are you doing here? Just to flood without reasonable proofs against the discussion?