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Daily Suggested Workouts vs Coach

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1 month ago

What's the difference between Daily Suggested Workouts and the newish Garmin Run Coach feature?

I've read up on separate pages the features of both and the wording suggests they are essentially the same, i.e. they both train you for a particular event for a target time and are adaptive since they both take into account your:

  • Pace & Heart Rate
  • Training Status & Load
  • VO2 Max & Lactate Threshold
  • Recovery Time & Sleep
  • Recent performed workouts

I'm unclear what the difference is really and which is best suited to who? 

Garmin it would be nice if you had some direction on this matter as you appear to have designed 2 products that are the same?

I currently have a full marathon (and a half) later in the year and have added these events to my watch with targets. Currently I have been using the DSW for them but thinking of switching to the Garmin Run Coach if that includes strength training (or any other benefit).

  • 0 8 days ago

    Curious of others comparison or experience with these?

  • 0 7 days ago in reply to 3809324

    Me too. I bought a 265 recently to try this features and, yes, there is ambiguity on what is what.

    Throw in "Race Widget" in Calendar too. I know there is a lot of overlapping features there. It would be good to have some example scenarios where *this tool* works best, or that scenario where *that tool* works best.

    Two different things: [Garmin Run Coach] and [Garmin Coach] -with Greg, Amy, and Jeff.

  • 0 6 days ago in reply to chris_in_cal

    Yeah fair point, whats the difference between "Garmin Coach Plans" with Greg, Amy & Jeff vs. the "Garmin Run Coach" .

    It appears the "Garmin Run Coach" is the only available option if you want to tackle marathon distance, for 5k to half marathon the other 3 coaches are available.

  • 0 6 days ago in reply to 3809324

    I've used "Garmin Coach Plans" with Greg, Amy, & Jeff a bunch.   My old 745 didn't have "Garmin Run Coach" and I just bought this FR265 explicitly so that I can try "Garmin Run Coach.    I can't tell you what the difference are yet.

    Garmin Coach Plans(GCP): Has cute videos. GCP does have some limited amount of adaption, I'm not sure exactly but GCP has fixed workouts the coach provides and I think the adaptation is more on the binary of 'did you do the run or not' and a little bit on speed/time on some of the runs.

    Garmin Run Coach talks about a multifactor adaptability (which is exciting) I hope it does a real personalized job of assessing sleep quality, stress, workout volume, and whatever else they throw in to generate a plan to get me to my :40 min/10k race goals, etc. Garmin Run Coach seems to have done away with the animatronic coaches...and it is all data.

  • 0 3 days ago in reply to chris_in_cal

    From what I gather the Garmin Coach Plans (GCP) are rigid and don't take into account other activities you have been doing out with the official runs they assign you, e.g. even if you do a run on the same day but if you don't select their programmed run, it will count that you didn't run that day. 

    The Garmin Run Coach (GRC) should fix this, but then that just becomes the same as Daily Suggested Workouts (DSW). Maybe this is just a gimmick from the Garmin marketing team, "hey everyone, we have created this new feature", but in reality there is nothing new as its the same that already existed before i.e. GRC = DSW, with no change to GCP

  • 0 3 days ago in reply to 3809324

    Do you use a FR265? Have you put your race in the Garmin Connect calendar? Has it created a "Race Day Widget" for you race? I think the race specifics on the calendar are a part of creating the DSW.  Is this what you are seeing?

  • 0 3 days ago in reply to chris_in_cal

    Yeah I use the FR265 and entered my race into the calendar.  I have the race day widget (flag icon), this target does drive the DSW.  Even without a target the DSW still provides runs for you, however it is way more useful if you enter either a specific race or other fitness goal in mind.  

    I can't see the difference between the DSW and GRC (with a target).