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MoveIQ and training load

MoveIQ seem to just register that an activity is done, not register the training load from it.
Of course, the estimation will be less accurate as OHR is just strobing, not continuously on, no GPS etc. It should still be sufficient for a base estimation.

I would prefer to not manually track by commuting bike rides (2*7km a day, some in zone 2). I am not interested in that data myself, it is just a minor hassle to record the rides.
If I do not record the rides, the 255 constantly recommends more easy exercises, not the anaerobic it should recommend. It is quite irritating, Garmin has the relevant data but do not use it.

But all analysis other than the quite good GPS is maybe meaningless anyway? Should we expect this data to be useful?
* Sleeptracking is a joke.
* OHR is very unreliable and do not detect zone 5 for me or detect peaks higher than my max hr and readjusts the HR zones (I have deactivated that now). This lack of accuracy is another reason to why training load analysis is quite meaningless.

How can I trust data I cannot measure myself as HRV etc?

0 Grumpy from dawn till dusk over 2 years ago

gerhardo said:
Sleeptracking is a joke

Why?

gerhardo said:
OHR is very unreliable

I would not say very, but these technique has clear limits. This is, why everybody who wants good HR data for training analysis uses an external HR strap during training, which can really read your Hearts electricity.
For me, OHR is just the „nice to have“ addon for 24/7 tracking and everyday activities like walking or hiking or maybe commuting bike rides.

gerhardo said:
MoveIQ seem to just register that an activity is done, not register the training load from it.
Of course, the estimation will be less accurate as OHR is just strobing, not continuously on, no GPS etc. It should still be sufficient for a base estimation.

Here I agree, they could use the data better, as HR is there and also the classification as activity.

Overall it seems to me, that there are quite a lot of functions that have been added over the years, probably because it was „fashion“ for fitness watches and the competitors also had it, but the integration is not very good. Maybe Garmin also thinks so, as they started to work on enhancing the unified status if you own more then one Garmin device. Maybe they will also think about, how to integrate the different metrics better that already exist on one device.

0 gerhardo over 2 years ago in reply to Grumpy from dawn till dusk

I cannot compare with other watches, I do not really believe Garmin is worse. The only I can access is GPS accuracy and Garmin is normally better for that (at least x55, previous watches had their limitations even if they seem to be a magnitude better than most smartwatches).

MoveIQ is a missed opportunity to shine.

Sorry for the ranting, but but the point was really that I should not try to use the "fitness" features and only look for the core watch features?
(But in that case I would get something with better price peer feature than Garmin.)

Sleeptracking: For me, the watch detects that I go to sleep several hours before I actually go to sleep, also detecting deep sleep at that time. Time awake in the night is not registered either, I feel the phase detection is random too. Sleepscore is really good or bad, and I know that myself.

OHR is maybe better when the arm is not cold, but as you said it is more a nice to have. Unfortunately, it is not used with MoveIQ where it would be useful. My office HR is not interesting...

0 gerhardo over 2 years ago in reply to gerhardo

I have tried to track my commutes, but it is quite meaningless: The watch just connects to the heartrate strap in my bag, so I get bad reading anyway. So to get good data I have to use the strap (which means I have to use gel) or disable the sensor in the watch (and remember to reactivate after. Quite some extra steps.

Registering activities manually do not add training load, also if hr is is set.