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Venu 3 : Resting heart rate not taken into account in heart rate zones

5195851
over 1 year ago

My initial post has been strangely moved to the Garmin Connect Web section !

I'm reposting this topic with additional details :

I have the latest firmware v7.07 on my Venu 3.

In my user profile, I've set the following data regarding heart rate :

  • max heart rate : 200 bpm
  • resting heart rate : custom value of 60 bpm
  • regarding the zones, I've left the default value for each zone :
    • zone 1 : 50%
    • zone 2 : 60%
    • zone 3 : 70%
    • zone 4 : 80%
    • zone 5 : 90%

I've made a run and the zones are defined as following :

    • zone 1 : 100 - 119 bpm
    • zone 2 : 120 - 139 bpm
    • zone 3 : 140 - 159 bpm
    • zone 4 : 160 - 179 bpm
    • zone 5 : 180 - 200 bpm

So the zones in bpm are defined only with the maximum heart rate.

I would expect the zones to use the heart rate reserve (maximum heart rate - resting heart rate).

And on the Venu 3, there is no choice to use only the maximum heart rate or the heart rate reserve.

Am I missing something ?

  • 0 over 1 year ago

    The workaround would be to set manually the % of max heart rate to the target value (of reserve heart rate) for each zone.

    In my case :

    • 65% (of 200 bpm) to target 130 bpm for zone 1
    • 72% to target 144 bpm for zone 2
    • ...

    But it's not so simple. Each zone has a limited range :

    • for zone 1,  the % cannot exceed 59%.
    • for zone 2, it cannot exceed 69%
    • ...

    So I cannot use my real maximum heart rate ...

    And I have to use a fake maximum heart rate of 220 to accommodate the limited % range for the zones.

    @Garmin, please :

    • make the Venu 3 take into account the resting heart rate
    • or at least, extend the % range for each zone to make them really usable

    Thanks.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 5195851

    I Don't think that the zones have a limited range.

    The bounds limitation of a zone is linked to the lower bound definition of the next zone.

    If you have defined 60% for the lower bound of zone 2, the lower bound of zone 1 will be limited to 59% and its upper bound will be limited to 60%.

    Following the discussion we have in this post, I have defined a max heart rate of 170 bpm and the following zones limits: 64-71%, 71-78%, 78-85%, 85-93%, 93-100%.

    To be able to enter these numbers, you have to change zone 5 first, then zone 4 and so on.

    The upper bound of zone 5 is limited to 100%.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 7932455

    My mistake. You're absolutely right.

    I don't know why I started to modify the zones from zone 1 !

    At least, we have a workaround that makes sense.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 5195851

    Guys looking for help on this. I’m trying to set my HR zones. I’ve managed to set them on the main HR page, however I’m finding when I go into running to set the HR zones there, it’s limiting me to 59% minimum in zone 1 and 69% minimum in zone 2. I’ve tried this multiple times and going from zone 5 downward, still limiting it. 

    Any ideas? 

    it is allowing me to just use default HR for the specific running and cycling HR. Now does that mean it will use the zones I have set in the normal HR page, or will it be what the zones were set at originally before I changed them!? 

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to Crawfty1985

    The minimum % in zone 1 depends on your Resting HR and your Maximum HR.

    It must correspond to a HR above your Resting HR.

    For me : Maximum HR = 200, Resting HR = 60 which is 30% of my Maximum HR.

    So I must set the minimum % in zone 1 at least to 31%.

    NB : I've set manually my Resting HR.

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to 5195851

    thanks. My issue is with increasing my HR %. 

    So zone 1, for example, I’m wanting to set to 63%-70%, however the maximum lowest value I can enter is 59%, so I can’t get to the 63%. If that makes sense? 

  • 0 over 1 year ago in reply to Crawfty1985

    Your zone 1 lower bound and upper bound are limited by the zone 2 bounds, and so on.

    By default, the zone 2 lower bound is 60%. So your zone 1 lower bound or upper bound cannot be higher than 60%.

    You have to set the bounds starting from zone 5 to zone 1.

    I've made the same mistake. Take a look at the post from user 7932455 in this thread for further explanation.

    I guess that's the reason why the settings for the HR zones are presented in this decreasing order.