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Navigation \ routing - Keeps on taking me down dirt tracks.

Matthew.Dennis
over 5 years ago

After my 1000 blew up i reluctantly forked out on the 830 as i've become heavily reliant on the round tip and get me home functions as i travel around the country a lot and don't have a clue where i'm going.

On the 1000 this function worked well but on the 830 i've been asked to ride across farmers fields and dirt tracks, surfaces my pride and joy road bike really aren't designed for. Its become that bad when i was in the Peak the other day that i turn my routing off and resorted to using google maps.

My activity setting is: Road and the Avoidance setting are set (The the green bar next to them) to avoid toll roads, unpaved road, ferries and narrow trails.

Is anyone else having similar issues or could recommend any settings i may have missing before it goes in the big (as Its not fit for purpose: navigation on a road bike).

Sorry for the rant, its a lot of money and its not fun being lost!

Thanks.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Freddie
    Freddie said:
    Google map cycling navigation is a million times better and shows that it's not as complicated as Garmin makes it. Perhaps Garmin has too many competing data sets.  I don't understand the teck under the hood, I'll admit. But it were not not for battery life, I'd toss the garmin and use a small smart phone, period. 

    Google might not have the dirt roads Openstreetmap (OSM) has. Your device is just using OSM data (there's not any "competing data sets").

    By "specific example", I mean indicating the location so the data can be looked at.

    Though "trail" suggest that the device should expect that it's unpaved.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to dpawlyk

    There are just too many of examples of being sent off road or down a loop to return to the main road for me to and I assure you if I provided it you you just rationalize it as being normal. I'm done trying to convince Garmin of anything because they don't want to admit their algorithm or software is flawed.  

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Freddie

    I was going to look at the data to see understand what was going on better.

    You appear to be more interested in complaining.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to dpawlyk

    My device is set to avoid unpaved trails. Garmin Edge never works as it should. and creates absurd routing patterns and loops that just bring you back to the original road you're on.....

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to dpawlyk

    You appear more interested in the status quo and not believing the issues exist.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Freddie

    It isn't much harder to provide a location as an example than it is to keep complaining.

    Yet you keep complaining.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to dpawlyk

    It's surly not that hard. I don't want to ride on motorways or dirt tracks (which I had selected) everything else is fair game.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Matthew.Dennis

    It's based on map data. Ways on OSM are categorized. The surface has to generally be assumed from the category.

    If it's a "path", it should be assumed to be unpaved.

    If it's a "footpath", it probably won't be (many ways designated as "footpath" are used as cycle paths).

    Many people updating OSM use "footpath" when they should be using "path".

    The "not on motorways" causes problems in the UK where roundabouts on A roads prevent routing across them,

    So, it's actually harder than you realize.

  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Matthew.Dennis
    "surly"
    /ˈsəːli/
    adjective
    1. bad-tempered and unfriendly.  "the porter left with a surly expression"
    Surely you know that this is a public forum and people are just trying to help don't you?
  • 0 over 4 years ago in reply to Daveymorrisuk

    Come on fella, telling me off about a typo (surly / surely) which seems pretty obvious based on the context of the sentence is one thing, spelling the same word wrong yourself makes me think of peopRoflle throwing stones in glass houses. Rofl

    My criticism is not of the contributor but of Garmin, who in my opinion have taken a backward step in their mapping process. 2yrs on from my original post and the routing option is still useless which is annoying since it was the only reason I stayed with garmin.