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GC version of fitness and freshness?

Hi folks

I am considering dropping strava subscription to go to basic. I would loose the fitness and freshness chart and wondered what the garmin equivalent would be, as it's not obvious to me.

I only cycle and use a power meter for each ride.

Thanks

MB

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  •  We don't have any features that are one-to-one of the Freshness feature on Strava. The closes we would have would be the body battery feature available on some of our wearable devices. Info on this feature can be found here

    As for the 530 itself without a wearable, the Recovery Time displayed would be the closest to that feature, which I understand is not the exact same thing. 

  • The Strava fitness and freshness chart is pretty useless and always has been.  If you want a better one that is free install the Elevate extension (you will need the Chrome browser) that works with Strava data.  No need for a paid Strava account.

  • Thanks Former Member and 

    I'm also looking at training peaks with the British Cycling discount. I've looked at golden cheetah but that needs some computer skills. I've also downloaded intervals.icu but that seems to have exactly the same engine as strava for this, but presented in a better way.

    MB

  • The Strava fitness and freshness chart is pretty useless and always has been.  If you want a better one that is free install the Elevate extension (you will need the Chrome browser) that works with Strava data.  No need for a paid Strava account.

    This!

  • I've downloaded the elevate extension and it is synching now in batches. will be interested to see what it says. Is it correct that i need to enter HR and PWR zones etc myself, or is that a part of the synch ?

    Thanks for the tip

    MB

  • You only need your FTP for fitness and freshness. You enter it in Stravstix and will need to add any changes. 

  • Top tip - enter your FTP history BEFORE you start synching your activities...

    MB

  • i've been using elevate and just wondered what made you think its better than Strava F+F charts ? Does the engine run with a different algorithm ? I do like it, albeit took 3 days to synch my strava activities.

    Cheers

    MB

  • Well for starters the Elevate one actually has some guidance on what the numbers mean with the form description in the box which appears as you move the cursor over the graph optimal, neutral, freshness and overload lines.  The Strava one just has the numbers and you have to try and interpret it with little help.

    Also Elevate has FTP history.  For a long time Strava had no FTP history.  If you changed your FTP everything related to it would change which is not good for this sort of analysis because it makes all data when you had a different FTP wrong.  Recently Strava have seemed to add FTP history (I never saw any announcement though) so that might be fixed for the FF chart.

    The main reason I prefer the Elevate one is the first point.  Also, you can use the Elevate stuff for free so if you prefer not to subscribe to Strava you can still see this info.  You have to subscribe to see the Strava one.

  • GoldenCheetah is a free open source training management tool designed around cycle training with power meter.  It has a performance management chart that is similar to Strava's fitness/freshness.  For more information see www.trainingwithdata.com/.../

    EDIT: I see that others already mentioned GoldenCheetah, I will leave this here as a tribute to my negligence.