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Auto pausing on hills

crazyowl
over 2 years ago

When riding up hill, my Edge 1040 repeatedly auto-pauses, then quickly resumes. When this occurs I'm usually going 6 to 9 mph. When it happens, I see my displayed speed jump to 0 mph, but this may be a result of the auto-pause, and not actually leading it. This happens reliably going up steeper hills, and can occur multiple times on a single climb. Auto pause works as I'd expect otherwise.

  • Software Version 14.50
  • Speed through Garmin Speed Sensor 2 w/ firmware version 4.0
  • Power and cadence through Assioma Duo Shi spindles
  • Road bike profile
  • Auto pause setting set to "When Stopped"

Any ideas?

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to Julian Young

    Familarity with TSS means you know at least a little something and have a powermeter so you should know that auto pause should not be used. Your data is not as clean as if you just let the thing run. What are the auto pausers solving by pausing recording?

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to cycleanalyze

    I will use auto-pause so that I am not recording my heart rate and average power (and actual ride time etc etc) when sitting in a cafe having a coffee. Am I right in thinking that if auto pause was de-selected, then the device will continue recording my power as "Zero", and my ride time would continue to be recorded as if I am actually riding, thus distorting the figures? But I am in the cafe!!

  • 0 over 2 years ago

    I had the same issue last night on my ride. Started auto pausing below 8MPH. I have auto pause setup for when stopped. This all started after FW14.50

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to steventonm

    Yeah in that case just pause it yourself. Auto pause on short stops adds up, it can also create a weird power curve. Say you ride for 2 minutes all out and oh no you're caught at a light suddenly. Auto pause stops the recording. 4 minutes passes while the light is red. Now it's green and you're refreshed, and you hammer 3 more minutes. Now you have a 5 minute power number that you could never have done without the 4 minute break in between.

    Long enough breaks to hang out and have a coffee or whatever sure it makes sense to pause or create another new file if the stop is long.

  • 0 over 2 years ago

    Looks like moving the speed sensor to the front wheel fixed it for me. Garmin, it would be nice if you waited to auto-pause during brief losses of GPS or speed sensor signal. You should be able to tell the difference between "not moving" and "just lost connection to the sensor". Especially when you have other clues, like cadence and power.

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to crazyowl

    I also have the sensor on the front wheel and it still happens. It doesn't happen all of the time so you will probably experience the issue again.

  • 0 over 2 years ago in reply to cycleanalyze

    In my opinion, you mix up the topics a little.
    "TSS" vs "0 watt" record.
    TSS is a burden on activity. If you stop at the traffic lights/intersection, before the pedestrian crossing and the autopause turns on or even press the pause yourself - the time of time and power is stopped. This does not change, as a rule, "TSS" itself. After all, as part of the activity you will do the determined work (kJ).
    Instead, the "Include 0 Watt" parameter is most important for TSS and medium power. It should be turned on and counted. If this is the case of releasing cranks, the lack of pedaling during the congress has an impact on the average power as a consequence also TSS.
    The "Include 0 Cadence" parameter is irrelevant for TSS - this one should be turned off and not included.

    Another issue you raise is purely strictly training based on blocks/intervals. You write about a 5 -minute block in which the player was caught "at the traffic lights". As a rule - you are right in the technical and mathematical field.
    But here it is the player who owes the situation that he chose not appropriate field conditions for a specific training. There are several dowel, e.g. he could care for training at the end of the block preceding this 5-minute th/hiit, knowing that he had a crossroads with traffic lights. Only after exceeding this intersection do you continue training.
    Another solution is, of course, choosing the right route to do the planned training without obstacles.

    greetings
    Artur