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Making sure Garmin routes my Komoot route exactly as made

Hi there, helpful friends.

I'm planning my participation in a multi-day ultra race. I use Komoot premium to plot my route. During the race there are so-called parkours I need to ride every single meter of. These parkours are specified as Komoot routes by the race holders.

I'm concerned what happens when I use my Garmin Edge 1040 Solar with these parkours. Making a shortcut (or detour) would techincally disqualify me, so I need to make absolute sure that they follow the routes down to the last meter. How do my settings need to be to make sure the Edge is not taking liberties and trying to outsmart me? I need it to not reroute me from the route at all, no matter the obstacle.

Thanks!

Sincerely, Ketil

  • I have been planing my rides with Komoot for years and it is always the same route - roads and sometimes I am using bike paths

  • I discovered some rerouting discrepancies when I rode a gravel race some weeks ago, so that's the reason I'm concerned. Could you check what your navigation settings look like on the particular activity profile, per chance? Thanks!

    If I make a wrong turn on the parkours, I ideally need the Edge to route me back to where my deviation started.

  • Not something silly like TCR?

    With X30 devices the only way of guaranteeing that the Garmin won't manufacture is own version of your loaded route is to disable "Turn Guidance" and just follow the route line, perhaps with "off course warning" enabled as it will tell you if off course. This way the Garmin does not calculate any route of its own but just displays the loaded one. You can add "course Points" to notify you about distance to important features, turns, summits, parcour starts / finishes etc and these appear in the "Up Ahead" Screen and on the map

    There is though some current doubt that the "turn guidance" can actually be disabled on the 1040

    https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-1040-series/300305/how-to-ride-a-course-instead-of-navigating-it

    Good Luck

  • Thanks for your thorough reply! Something silly like TCR would be correct ;-) I'd rather not be stranded on shortcuts or detours in the middle of the Eastern European countryside if I can avoid it :)

  • Unser Navigation, there is a Setting where you can switch off the Garmin is routing you or only displaying a course. my edge is not with my so I have to tell it by memorie, but you can toggle between „map“ and „route“. Set it to route to prohibit calculation of the route. 

    I will look it up this evening. 

  • Double good luck then, some of the eastern bit of the course looks more wild west than eastern europe. The likelihood that the OSM maps for those parts are less accurate is high and thus the potential of Garmin maps getting confused is high. Ensure you view the Komoot routes via an OSM overlay (if that is possible) will at least lower the potential for differences but they both might be wrong so have a backup plan. The parcours should have been surveyed by organisers so might be better but the problems might be in your own route sections. That (and the 4000kms/50,000m?) is way we admire participants.

    I have been following discussion here yacf.co.uk/.../index.php

  • Agree following the course on the display rather than using navigation is probably the best.  When the Edge "Navigates" it matches the downloaded course as best as it can against its own map and then uses its own map for the Nav. If there are discrepancies between the maps used to create the course and the map on the Edge, then the navigated course can be a bit different.

  • What is this setting?  There are various settings under Navigation \ Routing, but I think these relate to when you ask it create a route or if you go off course.  So for course recalculation you could choose Prompt Only.  The only other setting is Navigation \ Navigation Prompts which can be set to Map or Text only, but I think that is just what the alert looks like during navigation,

  • What is this setting?
    Home>Navigation>Courses>Course Options

    Turn Guidance

    www8.garmin.com/.../GUID-5FB6AF7B-6157-4AFC-B82B-C3AEED568646.html

  • Couldn’t work out why that setting would make a difference, but I’m assuming that the logic is that the Edge needs to do routing based on the map, in order to know when there are turns for it to then notify you about them.  If you don’t want notifying it doesn’t need to do that routing.  The downside here is that you can’t navigate unless you stay on the map page, so you’ll also need to stop it switching to ClimbPro, Segments, etc..